Every time we looked at hiring entry levels...
Justin James | 07/10/09
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re: Every time we looked at hiring entry levels...
intothinair | 07/10/09
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Dunno, I had one spend fifteen minutes justifying all the
Tony Hopkinson | 07/12/09
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Good system, as long as ...
PsiFiScout | 07/14/09
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Well Said!!
jbaig82 | 07/17/09
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Too late
Mark Miller | 07/10/09
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Mentoring entry level programmers is a bad idea
jkameleon@... | 07/13/09
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Which reveals the shortsightedness of management.
PsiFiScout | 07/13/09
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I agree that long term vision is lacking
Justin James | 07/13/09
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It's hard to break into it
Mark Miller | 07/13/09
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Why hire anyone at all?
Baruch Atta | 07/13/09
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Exposure to Really Professional People improves the industry
jimw@... | 07/14/09
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The health of the industry paramount?
jkameleon@... | 07/14/09
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Entry level programmers
bguthrie1@... | 07/14/09
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So much with you on this NEW
victor.hsu@... | 02/09/10
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My point exactly...
PsiFiScout | 07/14/09
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Right on -- Reality meets dreams
pfutrell | 07/16/09
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We'll probably move back to the old mainframe staffing model
Mark Miller | 07/16/09
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Scary thought
Justin James | 07/16/09
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It wasn't all neat and tidy back then
Sterling "Chip" Camden | 07/17/09
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Experience is not Inherent!!!
jbaig82 | 07/17/09
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I'd hire you if I could
Tony Hopkinson | 07/17/09
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Great attitude
Sterling "Chip" Camden | 07/18/09
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Future of the industry
sanjay.karnam@... | 07/22/09
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They still want background history though
Maarek | 07/10/09
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Some employers rely too much on the school and not enough on the brain.
PsiFiScout | 07/14/09
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RE: Poll: Why do we hire entry-level programmers?
dmitreyg@... | 07/10/09
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Interns too...
KSoniat | 07/10/09
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Interns are another story
Justin James | 07/10/09
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It depends on the person
Sterling "Chip" Camden | 07/10/09
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Why do schools produce entry-level programmers?
Saurondor | 07/11/09
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Because they can't do anything else
Sterling "Chip" Camden | 07/11/09
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You get what you pay for
PsiFiScout | 07/14/09
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Well they don't at our place at the moment
Tony Hopkinson | 07/10/09
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I don't see why you're asking this question
Mark Miller | 07/10/09
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Something that changed a lot over the last 100 years...
Justin James | 07/11/09
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It depends on the company
Sterling "Chip" Camden | 07/11/09
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Are employees worth the investment?
Mark Miller | 07/12/09
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Thta's the lie that employers are now
Tony Hopkinson | 07/12/09
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A few companies still do it
Justin James | 07/12/09
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Don't do it.
Jaqui | 07/11/09
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The biggest flaw I find in CS grads
Sterling "Chip" Camden | 07/11/09
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yup
Jaqui | 07/11/09
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Like what?
Mark Miller | 07/12/09
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for some people
Jaqui | 07/12/09
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I never did CS, and I still have problems
Tony Hopkinson | 07/12/09
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I notice
Jaqui | 07/12/09
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Bubble sort the fastest?
Sterling "Chip" Camden | 07/12/09
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Unbreakable rules
Sterling "Chip" Camden | 07/12/09
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GOF has caused as many headaches as it solves...
Justin James | 07/12/09
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Ah yes, religions
Mark Miller | 07/13/09
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Like most good rules
Sterling "Chip" Camden | 07/13/09
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You forgot
Tony Hopkinson | 07/13/09
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Hardest thing to let go of coming out of pure theory CS program was...
charles.bundy@... | 07/13/09
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I'll bash academics until they realise the classroom
Tony Hopkinson | 07/13/09
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"Get the banana"
Sterling "Chip" Camden | 07/13/09
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That's awesome XD
Caggles | 07/13/09
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Thanks!
Sterling "Chip" Camden | 07/14/09
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Good one! :)
Mark Miller | 07/13/09
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Assumptions
Sterling "Chip" Camden | 07/14/09
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Yours is an excellent presentation - Case in point
charles.bundy@... | 07/14/09
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There's no need to hire entry-level programmers
jkameleon@... | 07/11/09
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RE: Poll: How about attrition?
Jack.Manger | 07/12/09
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Yeah but who's leaving
Tony Hopkinson | 07/12/09
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A professional liason task group is needed to work with schools
kferraro@... | 07/13/09
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Not a bad idea
Justin James | 07/13/09
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To some degree the problem is...
Sterling "Chip" Camden | 07/13/09
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On the idea of a Votech model
PsiFiScout | 07/14/09
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Or...
Caggles | 07/13/09
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Don't know about the US
Tony Hopkinson | 07/13/09
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Living Forever??
escapepod | 07/13/09
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RE: Poll: Why do we hire entry-level programmers?
smoran@... | 07/13/09
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RE: Poll: Why do we hire entry-level programmers?
Viperfriends12 | 07/13/09
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Perhaps it's an HR issue
Anita Y. Mathis | 07/13/09
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HR is certainly an issue
Tony Hopkinson | 07/13/09
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I've seen that too
Justin James | 07/13/09
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It's sort of like
Sterling "Chip" Camden | 07/14/09
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Interesting ...
Osiyo53@... | 07/19/09
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Me too
Tony Hopkinson | 07/19/09
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Which means...
Sterling "Chip" Camden | 07/19/09
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Entry-level programmers shouldn't exist
Caggles | 07/13/09
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I'd change that to "actually used"
Tony Hopkinson | 07/13/09
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Agreed, and one more thing...
Justin James | 07/13/09
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Work on open source projects
Mark Miller | 07/13/09
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Definitely
Sterling "Chip" Camden | 07/14/09
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Those used to exist. Maybe they still do?
Mark Miller | 07/13/09
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It's called On-the-Job-Training...
Four-Eyes | 07/14/09
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don't want to do that?... Hand it to the new guy
Duke E. Love | 07/14/09
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So don't
The 'G-Man.' | 07/14/09
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Where Is the Next Software Engineering Superstar?
bweiss@... | 07/14/09
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How many...
Sterling "Chip" Camden | 07/14/09
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Great point
Justin James | 07/15/09
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All good an well...
The 'G-Man.' | 07/16/09
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I did it for free, and next to free, just like I tell others to do
Justin James | 07/16/09
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Same here
Sterling "Chip" Camden | 07/16/09
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Someone's gotta do the dirty work
joshua.buhr@... | 07/14/09
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RE: Poll: Why do we hire entry-level programmers?
abuse.this2@... | 07/14/09
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Would you let a new surgeon do surgery on you?
Justin James | 07/15/09
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New
Englebert | 07/16/09
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You would never know
The 'G-Man.' | 07/16/09
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So they can be jaded and unhappy like us! ;)
vmax@... | 07/14/09
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RE: Poll: Why do we hire entry-level programmers?
Peleg | 07/15/09
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RE: Poll: Why do we hire entry-level programmers?
kmellentine@... | 07/16/09
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I cut my teeth on a 8086, 128k RAM, 2 floppy system.
wallace.wood@... | 07/16/09
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RE: Poll: Why do we hire entry-level programmers?
steve.rayner@... | 07/16/09
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No such thing as a dumb question, after all if you
Tony Hopkinson | 07/16/09
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RE: Poll: Why do we hire entry-level programmers?
venkat_athota@... | 07/27/09
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