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I know, I know…you’re wondering why this is in the open source blog. The reason is simple: I have used open source operating systems for a long, long time now. I have championed against Microsoft for over ten years. But when Techrepublic liked the idea of me writing some Vista content for them, I couldn’t say no. Of course this meant me actually using Vista. So I thought it would be interesting for the open source crowd to get my initial reaction to my explorations with Windows Vista. You know, see how (or if) it stands up to Linux. It was a hard pill to swallow for me. It might be a equally as hard for you. Let’s find out. Shall we?

Installation
To begin with I didn’t have to do any installation. I wish I would have but I knew how finicky Vista was with hardware, so I wound up having to purchase a new laptop. This was the first strike against Vista. Why? Because I knew, with 100 percent assurance, that I could download the latest, greatest version of Linux and get it up and running (with full-blown 3D desktop and everything the Aero desktop has to offer) on any machine I have. With Vista - it’s a crap shoot. Unless you have hardware with that magical sticker that says that the machine is certified for Vista, you just never know.

And of course this brings up one of the many really nasty points about purchasing a machine with a Windows operating system - you rarely get an install disk. Why is that? I paid the “tax.” I bought the machine with an operating system on it. And we all know that Windows likes to be re-installed every so often. But without that disk - no dice. Fortunately I could create a “back up” disk so I could re-install the OS should it need…but only on that laptop. Oh but wait - this is Microsoft so I can only install the OS on one machine anyway. So much for that gripe.

First boot
Then after I unpacked the laptop it was time for the first boot. There was a small part of me that so badly wanted to toss in my Mandriva 2008 CD and forget the whole Vista experiment. But I behaved and let it boot.

During the boot process I couldn’t believe how much I had to go through to get to the desktop. When I first powered up the laptop I thought I was watching a full installation going on. It took nearly 30 minutes to get to the point where I could start agreeing to every possible EULA I could imagine. And after all of those agreements, I finally reached the initial setup. The final setup was mostly just the standard username/password/timezone information.

Once the setup was complete I was greeted with a screen asking me if I was interested in peeking at the typical “free trials” that always seem to accompany any Windows operating system. I really hate this part of Windows. Why is it they seem to think ANYONE wants any AOL product these days? Why not offer something like Hotmail or any other product owned by Microsoft. These products just take up space, annoy the users, and ultimately wind up being deleted from the system. You never see a Linux operating system with annoying free trials of worthless software.

Getting to work
Finally. The desktop is loaded and I can get to work. The first order of business is to install Firefox, OpenOffice, and The Gimp. I may be using a Windows operating system, but that doesn’t mean I have to use Office, Explorer, and some proprietary graphics application. The installation of these applications brought about the next really annoying issue with Vista. Being a long-time open source software user I am accustomed to having to give the root password in order to install software. But just giving permission to continue to perform an installation does nothing more than annoy the user. What good does it do? I click on the OpenOffice install icon and then I have to give Vista permission to install OpenOffice? Didn’t I just do that by clicking the OpenOffice install icon? Seriously…what is the purpose of this? There is no safety with this system. It’s not like you have to enter an administrator password - you just say “sure Vista, you can go ahead with this installation.” So of course, after too many instances of having to allow the UAC (User Access Controls) to do what I had already told the system to do, I decided to disable this control. It didn’t really take me long to figure this out (doing a search in Explorer for “user” finds the configuration setting) and, once I had it disabled, I was able to do a bit more work with a little less hassle.

With the UAC out of my way, Vista just seemed like yet another Windows operating system. I was limited with my configuration options; I couldn’t control sub-systems the way I can with Linux, and Aero is seriously limited to what it could do. The former two points I expected (Windows is very limiting in user control). The latter point really surprised me though. Microsoft had proclaimed Vista’s Aero to be the next level of user interface. Really? Some half-attempt at transparency and a bit of a reconfiguration of the Start Menu? Seriously? No. I think the next level of user interface is what I am currently working with - Compiz. And besides, Linux has been doing transparency for over five years (remember AfterStep 1.6?)! So where is the innovation? I can understand that the standard Windows user would look at Aero and ooh and ahh because that’s how Microsoft works the public opinion - they steal ideas and make everyone think they where the originators (Can anyone say “Mouse”?).

Now, at this point I started having good feelings about the Vista Media Center. It’s pretty simple to use. But very quickly the lack of options and customizations really hit me. There are a few Linux versions of the media center, and with each version, they can be customized in nearly any way you want. With the Vista Media Center customizations/optimizations are very limited. Typical Microsoft micro-management.

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Another issue. I wanted to make sure the laptop always connected to my wireless network by default. I failed to check that option when I first set up the connection on the laptop and had a LOT of trouble figuring out how to make it so (without having to delete the wireless connection and start over). Again, with Linux this is simple.

The verdict
I can’t say I hate Vista. I can say that, in comparison to the open source operating system that I use day in and day out, Vista pales in comparison. Vista can not do nearly the things Ubuntu or Mandriva (or SuSE, or PCLinuxOS, etc.) can do. And, at least from my perspective, the various forms of Linux can do all of these things much easier and much more efficiently.

My point is this: It seems that everyone assumes that the Windows operating system is the most user-friendly available. I think they are wrong. I think that Microsoft has actually managed to “dumb down” the operating system (in Vista at least) to the point where very little makes sense. Very basic tasks should be obvious. They are not. Obvious locations for certain tools are no longer valid. Administration that should be quick and easy is time consuming and confusing (at times).

If you think about it like this: Microsoft has basically created a new distribution of Windows. And migrating from one distribution (XP) to another (Vista) isn’t as easy as it should be. Now migrating from, say, Ubuntu to Mandriva is simple. In either Ubuntu or Mandriva everything makes sense. And, in the case of Ubuntu/Mandriva you’re migrating to an entirely different package management system…and it still makes sense. But migrating from one Windows distro to another becomes a task even administrators don’t want to undertake.

I interviewed a head teacher at a local school that offers classes in various Windows topics (from MS Office to administrator-level SQL to programming) and he said they can’t find anyone to teach and no one who wants to learn Vista. So they are sticking with XP. When I told him I had to pick up a Vista-ready laptop his first question was if I had already installed another operating system over Vista. I said “no;” he winced and apologized.

I’m not so quick to get rid of Vista. I find it challenging and I like a good challenge. But I will say that I find this Windows distribution (Vista) not nearly as user-friendly as most of the modern Linux distributions. Not only are the Linux desktops easier to use they are far more flexible and easier to administer. And yes, as soon as I no longer have a need for Vista, that Sony Vaio will sport Mandriva.

Jack Wallen was a key player in the introduction of Linux to the original Techrepublic. Beginning with Red Hat 4.2 and a mighty soap box, Jack had found his escape from Windows. It was around Red Hat 6.0 that Jack landed in the hallowed halls of Techrepublic. Read his full bio and profile.

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The Full install? Jaqui | 09/22/08
MS or Acer's fault? Palmetto | 09/22/08
Acer's, fully. Jaqui | 09/22/08
I would say MS is not at all at fault Dumphrey | 09/22/08
Sorry but I have to disagree here HAL 9000 | 09/27/08
You can slipstream bentedgz | 10/09/08
Post Deleted OH Smeg | 10/10/08
RE : Don't use MS much do ya... HAL 9000 | 10/10/08
There is an easy solution Hal Techno Rat | 10/10/08
Strange you should mention Floppies Ratty. :D HAL 9000 | 10/11/08
I have one 5? floppy left Techno Rat | 10/12/08
Floppy is my boot partition Neon Samurai | 10/13/08
hey Palmie Jaqui | 09/22/08
Acer Oz_Media | 09/22/08
stick it Oz Jaqui | 09/22/08
I've met ONE Oz_Media | 09/23/08
Well, here's a surprise! lastchip | 09/24/08
No not at all Oz_Media | 09/24/08
Not quite. lastchip | 09/24/08
Maybe heed your own comments then Oz_Media | 09/24/08
Hardware requirements are part of an OS's worth jdclyde | 09/25/08
I've met one also THX 1138 | 10/31/08
Acer is Okay! THX 1138 | 10/31/08
I bought an Acer... Media-Ted@... | 01/01/09
I can`t believe you`d have bothered with this crap. :^0 sleepin'dawg | 09/23/08
no by choice Jaqui | 09/23/08
Hey, Oz and dawg! Palmetto | 09/23/08
Palmie you missed the point Oz_Media | 09/23/08
If you promise not to tell anybody, Palmetto | 09/23/08
Yup, the heyday Oz_Media | 09/23/08
Computer confusion cured by linux zefficace | 09/23/08
Superficial Dogcatcher | 09/23/08
I like Vista & Linux benmoto | 10/30/08
The only way Techno Rat | 10/31/08
Only and Never santeewelding | 10/31/08
Over your head was it? (NT) Techno Rat | 10/31/08
I think boxfiddler | 10/31/08
What? Techno Rat | 10/31/08
Picky boxfiddler | 10/31/08
Hey boxfuddler Techno Rat | 10/31/08
Y'know Rat boxfiddler | 10/31/08
Thankyou Techno Rat | 10/31/08
What the hell does any of that boxfiddler | 10/31/08
Boxy The Scummy One | 10/31/08
Techno santeewelding | 10/31/08
Wow Techno Rat | 11/01/08
Prolly right, Scummy. boxfiddler | 10/31/08
Do you get the young people dressed in the red suit? Techno Rat | 11/01/08
Which is better? mjolnar@... | 01/01/09
ATT and IE ? bruceslog | 01/02/09
Windows is easy, Linux is hard, and other lies we grow up with. The Altruist | 09/24/08
There's the 'stupid' accusation again. Palmetto | 09/25/08
Actually Palmetto Jaqui | 10/09/08
From what angle? mjolnar@... | 10/09/08
Linux's faults are (generally speaking) not of it's own making Jaqui | 10/09/08
I now have a 'buntu LAMP server that I X/SSH into and cheerfully dual-boot klockheed | 10/30/08
Well a LAMP server is not the type of thing Dumphrey | 10/31/08
Stupid? becomann | 01/01/09
No MS fanboy Ronin69 | 10/30/08
A bit superficial gpernot@... | 10/30/08
Agreed, compared to your thoroughly detailed Tony Hopkinson | 10/30/08
Some points bruceslog | 01/02/09
Comments about the installing... WTRT | 09/22/08
Crapware comes from the OEM, not Microsoft NickNielsen | 09/22/08
Could be... WTRT | 09/23/08
OEM CD Northlite | 01/01/09
Re: Crapware comes from the OEM, not Microsoft cbader@... | 09/23/08
Problem is it is the same deal MS has with the vendor rhomp2002@... | 09/23/08
That's why I build NickNielsen | 09/23/08
RE: A Linux Zealot Examines Microsoft Vista polax@... | 09/22/08
this is where we differ jlwallen@... | 09/22/08
Preferences. Palmetto | 09/22/08
Palmetto Techno Rat | 09/23/08
I had a bad day??? Palmetto | 09/23/08
Succintly said. klockheed | 10/30/08
More don't care jdclyde | 09/23/08
The problem of pushing that "one" button... RipVan | 09/23/08
One thing to remember Palmetto | 09/23/08
So, I assume that... JohnMcGrew@... | 09/24/08
Empower the user jdclyde | 09/23/08
"Dumbed Down" is really smartened up -- somewhat, perhaps john3347@... | 09/23/08
you're arguing over the color of M&Ms hufja34@... | 09/23/08
it does matter drooghead | 09/24/08
Bad things, man; bad .... things!" Palmetto | 09/24/08
I've yet to see any official opinions against profit Neon Samurai | 09/24/08
It isn't profit jdclyde | 09/24/08
Ah, I think I see the problem. Palmetto | 09/24/08
short term gains at long term expense Neon Samurai | 09/25/08
It isn't profit jdclyde | 09/24/08
profit? drooghead | 09/24/08
Responses Palmetto | 09/24/08
"As long as you can make an ip connection .." Neon Samurai | 09/24/08
What you "like" means nothing jdclyde | 09/24/08
But there is a reason to argue over the colour of M&Ms. Oz_Media | 09/24/08
One of the reasons I liked working at the Student Union in college was... NickNielsen | 09/24/08
Why brown? Palmetto | 09/25/08
The Van Halen rider NickNielsen | 09/25/08
I was just going to add that Neon Samurai | 09/25/08
Led Zeppelin Oz_Media | 09/26/08
AdBlock! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! techrepublic@... | 09/24/08
You vs the average windows user jdclyde | 09/22/08
But JD Techno Rat | 09/23/08
What makes me laugh jdclyde | 09/23/08
Makes perfect sense. Palmetto | 09/23/08
Buy them jdclyde | 09/23/08
No, of course not. Palmetto | 09/23/08
No.... jdclyde | 09/24/08
?:| NickNielsen | 09/24/08
Thanks that was a good laugh (NT) Techno Rat | 09/25/08
I would disagree ... mwagner@... | 10/30/08
You sir, have never supported a call center. Dumphrey | 10/31/08
I think you proved my point. mwagner@... | 10/31/08
*nix as a better option... Dumphrey | 10/31/08
I've done it and so have many others NickNielsen | 10/31/08
Examines? The 'G-Man.' | 09/22/08
what would you want jlwallen@... | 09/22/08
:0 Jellimonsta | 09/22/08
Going where? :0 jdclyde | 09/22/08
What I would like to see jdclyde | 09/22/08
okay let's go a little deeper jlwallen@... | 09/22/08
Just a quick question Dumphrey | 09/22/08
UAC could have been better implemented Neon Samurai | 09/22/08
I haven't experienced the Dumphrey | 09/22/08
the password confirms the user Neon Samurai | 09/22/08
Sometimes I forget Dumphrey | 09/23/08
UAC is system wide, sudo can be a single command Neon Samurai | 09/23/08
So if I am following you correctly Dumphrey | 09/23/08
correct as I understand it Neon Samurai | 09/23/08
Thanks for the clarification neon Dumphrey | 09/23/08
A lot of that would not matter to me jdclyde | 09/23/08
What would we want? Palmetto | 09/22/08
RE: A Linux Zealot Examines Microsoft Vista riverab@... | 09/22/08
Hear Hear jchapman1964 | 01/01/09
Funny Techno Rat | 01/01/09
Cut the crap kadry76@... | 09/22/08
Typical jdclyde | 09/22/08
A WATB? Palmetto | 09/22/08
I think the issues he raised Dumphrey | 09/22/08
I'd like to apologize Palmetto | 09/22/08
someone had slappy-fight smilies in one of the other forums Neon Samurai | 09/22/08
Sounds like Scummy Palmetto | 09/22/08
Anything like one of these? The Scummy One | 09/22/08
hehe.. those are some good squishy.. I had to go find the other one .. Neon Samurai | 09/22/08
They come out every time, Palmy jdclyde | 09/22/08
Cut the Crap...again... kadry76@... | 09/22/08
Linux Zealot Objective review Tony Hopkinson | 09/23/08
Shrink wrap = quality? jdclyde | 09/23/08
Even if you get really lucky and buy something Tony Hopkinson | 09/23/08
Been there and got the tee shirt - multiple times! rhomp2002@... | 09/23/08
Me too. Tony Hopkinson | 09/24/08
One small gripe Techno Rat | 09/23/08
From the title of the discussion jdclyde | 09/23/08
As others may have pointed out, - Edited. Palmetto | 09/22/08
I can support his statement of non-intuitive Dumphrey | 09/22/08
'Intuitive' Palmetto | 09/22/08
Your definition works as well as any Dumphrey | 09/22/08
RE UAC Jaqui | 09/22/08
UAC lolleyannie1@... | 09/22/08
Wow! Palmetto | 09/22/08
I have always been interested jdclyde | 09/22/08
Could be The Scummy One | 09/22/08
I disagree Techno Rat | 09/23/08
OS disk costs Palmetto | 09/23/08
The vendor I used one time and never again rhomp2002@... | 09/23/08
One disagreement. Palmetto | 09/23/08
Yes Techno Rat | 09/25/08
A Linux Zealot Examines Microsoft Vista normhaga@... | 09/22/08
This mostly depends on the user The Scummy One | 09/22/08
Uhh, Yeah. normhaga@... | 09/22/08
Make things easier on yourself jdclyde | 09/22/08
Good Idea's. normhaga@... | 09/22/08
Well, I got yelled at jdclyde | 09/23/08
I'm looking at Bacula on for a server at the moment Neon Samurai | 09/23/08
I have not yet had to back up... normhaga@... | 09/23/08
I'm reading a lot about Dell right now Neon Samurai | 09/23/08
booting from flash cacycleworks | 09/25/08
Done that for years NickNielsen | 09/25/08
I still use a floppy for my primary boot sector Neon Samurai | 09/26/08
okay... csmith.kaze | 09/22/08
Vista thru the eyes of a linux user jdclyde | 09/22/08
i agree csmith.kaze | 09/22/08
I have an example magic8ball | 09/22/08
Well, maybe it's not for the 90% of desktop users. Palmetto | 09/22/08
That's just it Palmetto magic8ball | 09/22/08
dual headers are still a specialty item too Neon Samurai | 09/22/08
Not all of them but most magic8ball | 09/22/08
pixar animators are still pretty specialized Neon Samurai | 09/22/08
I have to agree magic8ball | 09/22/08
It's totally a "if it's not broke yet" thing Neon Samurai | 09/23/08
I have stoped using ATI cards in Dumphrey | 09/23/08
Magic8, what gpu are you using these days? Neon Samurai | 09/23/08
Off-topic - Chevy vs. Ford vs. Dodge vs. Toyota Palmetto | 09/22/08
I was waiting for a reply magic8ball | 09/22/08
dual monitor sucks on Windows too Neon Samurai | 09/22/08
dual monitor csmith.kaze | 09/22/08
"The only third party tool I use is multimon" Neon Samurai | 09/22/08
XP and multi monitors magic8ball | 09/22/08
I have to disagree (partially) The Scummy One | 09/22/08
Notebooks and multi monitors magic8ball | 09/22/08
let's hope open GPU drivers can fix that Neon Samurai | 09/22/08
Better driver support would rule magic8ball | 09/22/08
I find "regular user friendly" depends on who is talking Neon Samurai | 09/22/08
Average users agreed magic8ball | 09/22/08
I suspect she'd do ok Neon Samurai | 09/23/08
ATI Techno Rat | 09/23/08
I'm such a version snob Neon Samurai | 09/23/08
Dual monitors config on linux Ambercroft | 09/24/08
That title says it all... ItsTheBottomLine | 09/22/08
Then you aren't using the right desktop gui seanferd | 09/22/08
Windows to Linux to OSX. normhaga@... | 09/22/08
Problem with user-friendly is that it's subjective alaniane@... | 09/22/08
How well does Linux+Open Office deal with large Excel 2007 notebooks ? Doctor Neutron | 09/22/08
The problem is that they are in Excel 2007 format roaming | 09/22/08
and... normhaga@... | 09/22/08
Excel 2007 Format is the Problem ? Doctor Neutron | 10/07/08
I'd love to see Office 2003, or 2000 open them. TripleII | 09/23/08
Would love to see MS Office V1 Open it The 'G-Man.' | 09/23/08
People are to lazy jdclyde | 09/23/08
Excel for typing memos.. no.. but using Word for doing spreadsheets.. yes Neon Samurai | 09/23/08
I blame MS for that crap jdclyde | 09/23/08
ah.. Dos lotus 123 Neon Samurai | 09/23/08
What I hate jdclyde | 09/24/08
XML s31064 | 09/24/08
:^0 Thanks for that! :^0 NickNielsen | 09/24/08
I thought XML was Microsoft's format Neon Samurai | 09/25/08
Office 2000 or 2003 Belly-up Wiff 600 Mb Excel Note books Doctor Neutron | 10/07/08
You could j-mart@... | 09/23/08
Now you're talking applications Palmetto | 09/23/08
it's gotta be better than Excel 2002.. freaking crapware Neon Samurai | 09/23/08
Excel 2002 is NOT crapware Doctor Neutron | 10/08/08
uh.. eight hours a day, five days a week.. I'm working with Excel Neon Samurai | 10/09/08
Excel 2007 Troubles Doctor Neutron | 10/09/08
RE: but then again, I only gots 4 GB RAM. HAL 9000 | 10/10/08
I've done it all Neon Samurai | 10/10/08
This is probably a silly question Tony Hopkinson | 09/23/08
Why use a 600 MB Excel Spreadsheet Doctor Neutron | 10/08/08
In other words Too Tight or Too Incompetent HAL 9000 | 10/09/08
What you look at all 600 Meg at once ? Tony Hopkinson | 10/09/08
RE: A Linux Zealot Examines Microsoft Vista jmbrasfield@... | 09/23/08
And the real story against the UAC. normhaga@... | 09/23/08
RE: A Linux Zealot Examines Microsoft Vista tinyang73 | 09/24/08
How to Live Wiff UAC Doctor Neutron | 10/09/08
RE: A Linux Zealot Examines Microsoft Vista M. Gy. | 09/25/08
what application? Neon Samurai | 09/26/08
The applications M. Gy. | 10/07/08
The specialty software will keep you indenchured Neon Samurai | 10/10/08
There are things which sometimes did not work M. Gy. | 10/12/08
Actually the problem here isn't Linux HAL 9000 | 10/13/08
Even PCLinuxOS, Mandriva 2008.1 or 2009.0? Neon Samurai | 10/13/08
You can't even get Cross Windows Support HAL 9000 | 10/14/08
tarball.. or well throught out development Neon Samurai | 10/14/08
Harigato for the ideas M. Gy. | 10/14/08
Cheers, hope one of them works for you Neon Samurai | 10/15/08
Instructions to build a Linux machine like Vista ishaw@... | 09/27/08
Aero -- is that what w2ktechman | 09/27/08
RE: A Linux Zealot Examines Microsoft Vista Not2Nutz | 09/28/08
It wasn't intended to be objective. Palmetto | 09/29/08
Agreed jdclyde | 09/29/08
can you be objective in reading it? Neon Samurai | 09/29/08
If he's capable of doing such... NickNielsen | 09/29/08
DO NOT CROSS THE STEAMS! THAT WOULD BE BAD! jdclyde | 09/29/08
hehehe.. (nt) Neon Samurai | 09/29/08
RE: A Linux Zealot Examines Microsoft Vista anelson55447 | 10/30/08
Just an ignorant guess Palmetto | 10/30/08
Well Techno Rat | 10/31/08
For ye old "stupid" users Windows is easy to use kokuryu | 10/30/08
Once again, there's that "stupid" accusation Palmetto | 10/30/08
Do you think helps to call them stupid? Tony Hopkinson | 10/31/08
Yep. Mepis is one of those distros seanferd | 11/01/08
The MAC interface is really [edit] Dumphrey | 10/31/08
Consumers are not "stupid" ... mwagner@... | 10/31/08
Actually Techno Rat | 10/31/08
Ok so you're a Windows Newbie!!! chaz15 | 10/30/08
eh ? Tony Hopkinson | 10/31/08
RE: A Linux Zealot Examines Microsoft Vista ypfamily | 10/30/08
You may want to post this as a new Discussion. Palmetto | 10/30/08
Check these guys out Dumphrey | 10/31/08
RE: A Linux Zealot Examines Microsoft Vista mwagner@... | 10/30/08
Right on! BigTipper | 10/30/08
Going to your last paragraph ... mwagner@... | 10/31/08
I agree with you here. Dumphrey | 10/31/08
Sad thing about it Techno Rat | 10/31/08
What's your point? mwagner@... | 11/02/08
Your use of little Techno Rat | 11/02/08
Huh? Palmetto | 11/03/08
Some people Techno Rat | 11/03/08
'Luck' comes in two kinds Palmetto | 11/04/08
Don't waste bits, Palmetto NickNielsen | 11/04/08
What can I say? Techno Rat | 11/04/08
Ratty, you are an ass NickNielsen | 11/04/08
So Nick Techno Rat | 11/05/08
Why would you Techno Rat | 10/31/08
Linux Zealot or not ... mwagner@... | 11/02/08
Jack is a professional Techno Rat | 11/02/08
RE: A Linux Zealot Examines Microsoft Vista rbslack@... | 10/30/08
A Microsoft Zealot Examines Linux klockheed | 10/30/08
RE: A Linux Zealot Examines Microsoft Vista rjw_mpwr@... | 10/30/08
Hmm we have three levels of 'user' Tony Hopkinson | 10/31/08
Or not have the issue at all Dumphrey | 10/31/08
Definitely, I've fell flat on my face Tony Hopkinson | 11/01/08
RE: A Linux Zealot Examines Microsoft Vista pacheru | 10/30/08
Zealot = biased Tony Hopkinson | 10/31/08
I wish people would read all posts before reaching for the keyboard. Palmetto | 10/31/08
Maybe poster is looking for the "dumb user" award? jdclyde | 10/31/08
No don?t start that again Techno Rat | 10/31/08
Not "OF" jdclyde | 10/31/08
Scrape it off your shoe. santeewelding | 10/31/08
Do they worship at the shrine of one gate? Techno Rat | 11/01/08
But but Techno Rat | 10/31/08
RE: A Linux Zealot Examines Microsoft Vista shadfurman | 10/31/08
Good post -No name calling or BSing pacheru | 11/01/08
Really Techno Rat | 11/01/08
Linux right? pacheru | 11/02/08
This Techno Rat | 11/02/08
The problem with Win haters or any other OS THX 1138 | 11/02/08
So you Techno Rat | 11/02/08
Trolling?? Not a chance THX 1138 | 11/03/08
RE: A Linux Zealot Examines Microsoft Vista roy.evison@... | 12/30/08
RE: A Linux Zealot Examines Microsoft Vista jchapman1964 | 01/01/09
Very poorly justified opinions PlanBForOpenOffice | 01/01/09
Mmm EmperorDarius | 01/01/09
RE: A Linux Zealot Examines Microsoft Vista remarquee | 01/01/09
Really? Have you tested them with IE 8 (NT) Techno Rat | 01/01/09
RE: A Linux Zealot Examines Microsoft Vista inventingtech@... | 01/01/09
microsoft vs. all else roy.evison@... | 01/03/09
If you'd have read through some of the other posts Tony Hopkinson | 01/04/09
No Surprises rrusson | 01/01/09
JACK...JACK...JACK... Quit trying to understand... adams484@... | 01/02/09
I like Vista Tony Hopkinson | 01/04/09
RE: A Linux Zealot Examines Microsoft Vista jfreedle2@... | 01/02/09
Is that a whole hole, :D Tony Hopkinson | 01/04/09
RE: A Linux Zealot Examines Microsoft Vista LinkRS | 01/03/09
In a default linux Tony Hopkinson | 01/04/09

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