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Linux has failed to win either mind share or market share on the desktop. Google’s Chrome OS will do little to change that. Learn why.

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I’ve been running Linux on PCs since 1998, when Red Hat still cared about the desktop and Mandrake was supposed to be the distribution that was going to bring Linux to the masses. That was also about the time that the mainstream media got infatuated with the story of the free operating system from the Finnish hacker that was going to bring down Microsoft Windows.

Spoiler alert: I’m going to give away the ending now. It never happened. In the decade since it was first proclaimed as the “Windows killer,” Linux on the desktop has made virtually no progress in real adoption numbers. According to market share trackers (based on real PC activity and not just sales) such Net Applications, StatCounter, W3Counter, and others, the market share of Linux has been hovering around just 1-2% of total PC operating system installations for a decade.

Even in the past two years since the netbook phenomenon began with Linux as its primary OS, Linux market share has failed to make a major jump. The chart below, based on Internet visitors tracked by Net Applications, shows the trajectory of Linux desktop market share over the past 24 months.

Notice that Linux market share got a little bit of a bounce (mostly from netbook sales) in the first half of 2009 but has been dipping since then. Even so, the top line here is the 1% market share threshold, so the peaks and valleys are pretty insignificant when viewed from the perspective of the larger desktop OS market.

Despite this consistent evidence that Linux desktops were going nowhere, pundits, analysts and Linux enthusiasts have been repeatedly predicting that Linux was on the verge of a breakthrough on the desktop. At the end of nearly every year, some writer or publication has prognosticated that the following year would be “The year of the Linux desktop.” Here’s a quick selection of these Linux prophecies:

Desktop Linux: What happened?

Why hasn’t Linux succeeded on the desktop? There are several simple reasons:

  1. It’s still too much of a pain - While Ubuntu has made Linux much, much easier, it’s still not quite as easy to hook up a new printer, connect a digital camera, or manage your work calendar, for example, as it is on Windows. Plus, on the other end of the spectrum, Mac is even easier than Windows for most tasks and it has the same Unix underpinnings as Linux. As a result, in the last few years a lot of the hard-core techies who are the primary candidates for Linux have instead jumped to Mac OS X as a Windows alternative.
  2. The divide and fail strategy - The energy behind the Linux desktop movement has been divided up between a lot of different players, from Red Hat to SUSE to Ubtuntu to Debian at the software level to hardware players such as IBM and Dell at the PC level. A decade ago, the thought was that the force of Linux attacks from multiple angles would ultimately outflank Microsoft Windows. Instead, it has diffused the force behind Linux and dulled its attack from a marketing perspective.
  3. Not enough innovation - The primary value proposition for Linux is that it’s just as good as Windows - or at least “good enough” - and costs a lot less. Occasionally, you’ll hear that Linux is more secure or more stable than Windows - which can be true, but that’s mostly based on its Unix foundation. But, what innovative features has Linux brought to the world of desktop operating systems? The only one I can think of is the desktop manager / virtual desktop (which Mac OS X eventually adopted as its “Spaces” feature). The technology industry (and the consumers and businesses that support it) are still driven primarily by innovation, and the Linux development community has spent too much time trying to copy Windows and not enough time innovating on its own OS.
  4. Businesses want someone to blame - As my colleague Bill Detwiler says, IT professionals prefer to have someone to point the finger at when critical systems blow up and it leads to lost revenue or productivity. If you have Windows desktops (or even Mac), you’ve got a big target to point your finger at if you’re having a PC software problems, and someone predictable to call to help figure it out. On the other hand, if your IT department went with Linux desktops then you’d be going out on a limb. If something goes wrong - like users losing productivity from incompatible software - the finger could get pointed back at the IT leader who made the decision to take a non-standard Linux approach, since there’s no big software vendor to blame it on. In other words, Linux can expose IT leaders to more risk.

What about Google Chrome OS?

Now we’ve got Google Chrome OS being hailed as the latest savior of the Linux desktop. Google is taking a very different approach than Ubuntu or SUSE. The search giant is taking its Chrome Web browser and turning it into Web-only OS that will boot instantly, rely solely on Web apps, and drastically minimize local storage.

The Chrome OS will technically have Linux as its foundational software but it will not allow users to install Linux applications or even get to the Linux command line. It will be a non-standard, custom Linux kernel that serves only to boot the Google Chrome Web browser as quickly as possible.

Chrome OS is an intriguing concept and it will be one of the first big tests of the extent to which consumers and businesses are ready to accept the paradigm shift to cloud computing. However, it’s a concept that’s probably still several years ahead of its time and unlikely to make a major impact on the PC market in 2010. It’s also a little spurious to call Chrome OS part of the Linux desktop movement since the only thing it really does for Linux is to strip it down and get it out of the way.

Bottom line

It’s time to stop all of the misguided predictions about Linux becoming a force on the desktop. That ship has sailed. The masses don’t want it. Businesses don’t want it. Even Google can’t change that.

Linux is still building major momentum in servers and mobile devices. In the data center, Linux is replacing lots of Unix servers and is more than holding its own head-to-head against Windows servers. In mobile, Linux quietly serves as the underpinning for both Google Android and Palm webOS, the two platforms that pose the biggest challenge to the incumbents in the smartphone market. However, on the desktop, it’s time to just admit that the market has rejected Linux.

Jason HinerJason Hiner is the Editor in Chief of TechRepublic. Previously, he worked as an IT Manager in the health care industry. You can find him on Twitter, LinkedIn and at JasonHiner.com. To see the gadgets and personal tech he uses, view his gdgt profile.

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Can Chrome OS succeed where Linux desktops have failed? Jason HinerTechrepublic Moderator | 11/22/09
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actually, to run programs that Windows won't Neon Samurai | 11/24/09
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Ubuntu or OpenSuSE alfielee@... | 12/21/09
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Yes, you do. Palmetto | 01/29/10
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State of the art? trent1 | 11/23/09
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tiny windows vs. Linux tmsbrdrs | 11/23/09
Poorly made PCs? artlife | 11/23/09
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haha bckerr | 11/24/09
Fixing windows spawnywhippet | 11/23/09
Chrome is Not Linux peter891 | 11/23/09
Linux and Chrome Palmetto | 11/23/09
more thoughts Neon Samurai | 11/23/09
It's a smartphone without the phone. Palmetto | 11/23/09
agreed, not going to topple the desktop Neon Samurai | 11/23/09
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popularity just shows who had the most money to spend on Deadly Ernest | 11/27/09
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Tangent Pgoossen1233 | 11/23/09
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The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. mrdt | 11/23/09
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You can use rdesktop to connect to windows, major? Photogenic Memory | 11/23/09
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your definitive arguement seems subjective Neon Samurai | 11/23/09
Linux on desktops is a failure but it has great future in businesses. moko23 | 11/23/09
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Ever heard of nomachine? techadmin.cc@... | 11/24/09
Games lnevers@... | 11/23/09
Very true jcommunications@... | 11/23/09
how do you convince the game developers Neon Samurai | 11/23/09
You mean directX right? SinisterSlay | 11/23/09
DX11 seems to stack Neon Samurai | 11/23/09
Doesn't look like its going away just yet. SinisterSlay | 11/23/09
still replaying the first Neon Samurai | 11/23/09
Yeah, DX10 will end XP for me as well SinisterSlay | 11/23/09
Video for me too Neon Samurai | 11/23/09
I think the next real developments will be SinisterSlay | 11/23/09
I wondered the same Neon Samurai | 11/23/09
Try the PhysX screensavor for a sample SinisterSlay | 11/23/09
Part of that problem Palmetto | 11/23/09
those are outside the market already Neon Samurai | 11/23/09
Opposite of me.... SinisterSlay | 11/23/09
yeah, but your not the normal gamer Neon Samurai | 11/23/09
Admittedly.... SinisterSlay | 11/23/09
Are you able to uninstall them, except by hand. kevlar700 | 11/24/09
I reinstalled because... SinisterSlay | 11/24/09
it would depend on install method and game Neon Samurai | 11/24/09
Indeed SinisterSlay | 11/23/09
Heres a thought kevlar700 | 11/24/09
I believe that highlight is well known among avid/hardcore gamers SinisterSlay | 11/24/09
You may not realize it but... techadmin.cc@... | 11/24/09
This may supprise you but SinisterSlay | 11/25/09
That is simply not true yschoo1@... | 11/25/09
Linux Rock's andy.gravett@... | 11/23/09
Damn right, and Windows is too much maintenance msimko@... | 11/23/09
Git me some Hanna Montana Linux bugmenot.com@... | 11/25/09
Desktops... why are they so important? PhilippeV | 11/23/09
That's an outstanding question. Palmetto | 11/23/09
Desktops... why are they so important? bsmi021@... | 11/23/09
Linux may actually be a better mouse trap. Palmetto | 11/23/09
Desktops- more than games and office artlife | 11/23/09
Google will become a threat bradbrundage | 11/23/09
Irrelevant Smeags | 11/24/09
This is a Linux desktop jeanprupp | 11/23/09
Chromium OS - the kernel doesn't matter Neon Samurai | 11/23/09
Funny bckerr | 11/23/09
All very true david.humpherson@... | 11/23/09
I'm speechless.... dcolbert@... | 11/23/09
More to say... dcolbert@... | 11/23/09
Applications are the ruler blarman | 11/23/09
I agree about Linux in general meski.oz@... | 11/23/09
Why ??? meandnotme | 11/23/09
Why worry? phil@... | 11/24/09
A telling thing about Linux kisap | 11/24/09
Linux penetration... kent.manley | 11/24/09
Game, set, match (repost) thoiness | 11/24/09
explain how to install flash, firefox and openoffice for a new user Neon Samurai | 11/24/09
hold on... SinisterSlay | 11/25/09
true Start, Run Neon Samurai | 11/25/09
Agreed SinisterSlay | 11/25/09
I can see how that wouldn't help at all Neon Samurai | 11/25/09
Anyone can see what your problem is Ole Man | 12/21/09
I missed the wheelbarrow bit Neon Samurai | 12/21/09
what ??? meandnotme | 11/24/09
Couldn't care less orionds | 11/25/09
Desktop Linux? Works absolutely great for me. orionds | 11/25/09
Oops ... orionds | 11/25/09
http://linuxhaters.blogspot.com/ bugmenot.com@... | 11/25/09
Hanna Montana Will Save Linux Desktop bugmenot.com@... | 11/25/09
I could have gone a while without knowing that. No text. Palmetto | 12/04/09
The desktop won't win, but open formats will be MS's undoing. pbock@... | 11/30/09
Before I leave this discussion KimTjik | 11/30/09
It's a bait and hook... thoiness | 12/01/09
Linux does not work innovative network solutions | 12/01/09
Wrong analysis and conclusion (long post) [Part I] ricardoc@... | 12/03/09
Well balanced and well put... techadmin.cc@... | 12/04/09
Wrong analysis and conclusion (long post) [Part II] ricardoc@... | 12/03/09
Don't Trust the "Cloud" blubox | 12/05/09
Linux owns 32 percent of netbook market knuty | 11/23/09
Are those the same people... raoullux | 11/23/09
Netbooks Counter Argument noremac.xoc@... | 11/23/09
Not for everyone... alfielee@... | 11/23/09
Families on a budget??? Spare me. Palmetto | 11/23/09
not for everyone? not for those reasons artlife | 11/23/09
You're psychic? orionds | 11/25/09
Yes, and Windoze killed the netbook market cbellur@... | 11/23/09
Not a Desktop bsauer@... | 11/23/09
The figures are going to be in question... aharper@... | 11/23/09
Net books have what bsmi021@... | 11/23/09
Huh? Cliff? What cliff? orionds | 11/25/09
first of all bckerr | 11/24/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. Lennie_ | 11/23/09
Smart phones and the like Palmetto | 11/23/09
Smartphone are mainly Linux based .Martin. | 11/23/09
Chrome vs Chrome vulpine@... | 11/23/09
Interesting idea. Palmetto | 11/23/09
Try Communicating That to the Netbook's Main Audience--College Students Arsynic | 11/23/09
What a load of tripe... alfielee@... | 11/23/09
I did not say ARM processors aren't real processors. Palmetto | 11/23/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. sba.co.im | 11/23/09
Great point, Palmetto | 11/23/09
Also LouCed | 11/23/09
Re: Great point radamesort@... | 11/23/09
not too sure if cloud computing... cbellur@... | 11/23/09
Don't Forget Gaming Too!!! Arsynic | 11/23/09
Not everything should live in the cloud BitHammer | 11/23/09
Cloud real-time data makes it the best tonycopp@... | 11/25/09
Never matheuz@... | 11/23/09
Cloud =back to the old mainframe, loss of user control. chadwick@... | 11/23/09
For business Slvrknght | 11/23/09
Better have a good ISP.... billbohlen@... | 11/23/09
Thanks for the replies folks.. sba.co.im | 11/25/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. obvio.capitao@... | 11/23/09
Cheap XP Palmetto | 11/23/09
As to the price of Windows LouCed | 11/23/09
It ain't the price of the code, it's the cost of owning it! deefburger | 11/23/09
Old, Tired Windows Security Argument... Arsynic | 11/23/09
that's hogwash msimko@... | 11/23/09
just what do you base this arguement on? techadmin.cc@... | 11/24/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. richard@... | 11/23/09
Faulty history. ewodrich | 11/23/09
Louisville Courier-Journal: "Editor's head found on pike" Palmetto | 11/23/09
LOL Jason HinerTechrepublic Moderator | 11/23/09
LOL? mjc5@... | 11/23/09
No hatred, BitHammer | 11/23/09
Why write it? Palmetto | 11/23/09
Yes Jason HinerTechrepublic Moderator | 11/23/09
RE: This Article PoppaTab | 11/23/09
Get over it, you tried and were successful in popping the zit tonycopp@... | 11/25/09
No major vendors? deefburger | 11/23/09
Not _all_ their systems..... FXEF | 11/23/09
Dell systems Palmetto | 11/23/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. jkameleon@... | 11/23/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. Jesus Bolivar | 11/23/09
If it's such a pain... techadmin.cc@... | 11/24/09
Adobe be Slowbe tonycopp@... | 11/25/09
#5: Games & entertainment kpbarry@... | 11/23/09
Agreed SinisterSlay | 11/23/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. reddish1 | 11/23/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. Sean Hurley | 11/23/09
Counterpoints Jason HinerTechrepublic Moderator | 11/23/09
you ever seen this? chadwick@... | 11/23/09
Counter to Counter Points Sean Hurley | 11/23/09
Partner like... kirovs@... | 11/23/09
Yes ... Jason HinerTechrepublic Moderator | 11/23/09
I am afraid you are wrong kirovs@... | 11/23/09
Not wrong at all Jason HinerTechrepublic Moderator | 11/24/09
Not only wrong but in denial as well kirovs@... | 11/25/09
Jason, about vendor lock in, have you seen what MS really Deadly Ernest | 11/27/09
Yeah, except desktops are on the way out... ean@... | 11/23/09
Desktops not disappearing, just changing Dr_Zinj | 11/23/09
You simply can NOT apply the overused term "marketshare" to linux jlwallen@... | 11/23/09
That could make a interesting article Jason HinerTechrepublic Moderator | 11/23/09
What term should we use Palmetto | 11/23/09
but wait jlwallen@... | 11/23/09
Browsers aren't operating systems. Palmetto | 11/23/09
I have a term for it.. mjc5@... | 11/23/09
"I use Linux, like it & I doubt it will ever be widely adopted. Who cares?" Glenn from Iowa | 11/23/09
Amen! mendtodd@... | 12/22/09
Ask Steve Balmer who says Linux at 6-7% kirovs@... | 11/24/09
Did he buy lots of shares in Microsoft the next day? drowningnotwaving | 11/24/09
No, but... kirovs@... | 11/25/09
How do market share trackers work? techadmin.cc@... | 11/24/09
IP kirovs@... | 11/26/09
The matter of the fact is: Ole Man | 11/26/09
Site statistics... thoiness | 11/23/09
and an electronic poll is sure to have a false response due Deadly Ernest | 11/26/09
Are you very sure? drowningnotwaving | 11/23/09
"I'd guess there are 10,000 or more books and research articles" Ole Man | 11/26/09
You're right Ole Man - conservatively, it's over 18,000 drowningnotwaving | 11/30/09
"conservatively, it's over 18,000" Ole Man | 11/30/09
What drowningnotwaving | 11/30/09
Not surprisingly......... Ole Man | 12/01/09
Is that the one you roll out drowningnotwaving | 12/01/09
This is the sort of 'market share' information accuracy as the Deadly Ernest | 11/26/09
Ernest! santeewelding | 11/26/09
Santee, the stats being offered up to justify the market share Deadly Ernest | 11/26/09
"reliable", that's the challenge Neon Samurai | 11/27/09
The main figure used in compiling such figures is from Deadly Ernest | 11/26/09
It's more acurate to say "the market continues to reject Linux" support@... | 11/23/09
Tried 10 years ago - still can't do it today kingcomputing@... | 11/23/09
I understand completely support@... | 11/24/09
innovation vs copying techadmin.cc@... | 11/25/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. AlexTech08 | 11/23/09
Nobody wants Linux development to stop. Palmetto | 11/23/09
Battle Sparticus_123 | 11/23/09
Market can't reject what the amrket doesn't know about. clarkg@... | 11/23/09
Tried it, didn't like it steve@... | 11/23/09
Makes sense support@... | 11/23/09
Top or bottom? Palmetto | 11/23/09
ROTFLMFAO!! techadmin.cc@... | 11/25/09
WalMart tried and failed to sell Linux preinstalled pc's mustangj36@... | 11/23/09
actually those walmart systems... techadmin.cc@... | 11/25/09
Linux? A bit like Anal Sex... ronan-the-barbarian@... | 11/23/09
So, celerITas | 11/23/09
somewhat agree however... jhoward@... | 11/23/09
Have you ever met thoiness | 11/23/09
Re: "Have you ever met A person who hasn't heard of Linux?" techadmin.cc@... | 11/25/09
And as far as viruses are concerned... thoiness | 11/23/09
"When everything is exposed publicly, it's a little less of a challenge..." techadmin.cc@... | 11/25/09
They are written thoiness | 12/02/09
Key in on that MAJORITY thing.. Ole Man | 12/02/09
Ah sure... thoiness | 12/03/09
those aren't the only other reasons.. techadmin.cc@... | 12/03/09
Wargames Neon Samurai | 12/04/09
Wireless works on one release, failed on a higher release limws | 11/23/09
what is the problem? jlwallen@... | 11/23/09
Yes but 'the way' is inconvenient reggaethecat | 11/23/09
To them SinisterSlay | 11/23/09
equality would be interesting Neon Samurai | 11/24/09
Something that obvious couldn't possibly happen could it? SinisterSlay | 11/24/09
true, DX has the gaming market Neon Samurai | 11/25/09
and none of that would be required if the hardware people Deadly Ernest | 11/26/09
Not a matter of rather use a 9 year old security broken system... techadmin.cc@... | 11/25/09
there is always a Windows driver SinisterSlay | 11/25/09
I already said... techadmin.cc@... | 11/25/09
Wrong! (edited Nov 30th) Ole Man | 11/26/09
so you prefer things designed for only one OS and not to Deadly Ernest | 11/26/09
@ last 2 posts SinisterSlay | 11/30/09
or buy hardware designed to work on Industry Standards - nt Deadly Ernest | 11/26/09
Why destroy Linux' strength? NickNielsen | 11/23/09
there already is a shared place for hardware drivers Neon Samurai | 11/24/09
Nearly all the bugs and omissions you speak of are the Deadly Ernest | 11/26/09
I know your pain support@... | 11/23/09
Certainly matheuz@... | 11/23/09
Wireless (and network in Linux) vas_galati@... | 11/23/09
Not only wireless networking. john3347@... | 11/23/09
What are you on about? NickNielsen | 11/23/09
More recently than that john3347@... | 11/24/09
There's that word again NickNielsen | 11/24/09
the typical unskilled home computer user... techadmin.cc@... | 11/25/09
Don't know what distros you are familiar with... techadmin.cc@... | 11/25/09
Contrary experience Dogcatcher | 11/23/09
Wireless a problem with ubuntu? lfstlutz | 11/23/09
Speaking of wireless problems... techadmin.cc@... | 11/25/09
Running X remotely with XP kirovs@... | 11/25/09
What you'll learn is the number of companies who bowed to Deadly Ernest | 11/26/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. greg_and_hels@... | 11/23/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. jfk@... | 11/23/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. tspencer@... | 11/23/09
Not in my experience! deefburger | 11/23/09
Title of the original post is totally wrong, as Deadly Ernest | 11/23/09
If government is the answer... support@... | 11/23/09
Split the difference. Palmetto | 11/23/09
I'm not sure how Bell was a national security issue... techadmin.cc@... | 11/25/09
Here's how support@... | 11/30/09
your example is not about national security... techadmin.cc@... | 12/02/09
Well written, well thought out support@... | 12/04/09
Actually... techadmin.cc@... | 12/04/09
Tough to make that argument any more ... Jason HinerTechrepublic Moderator | 11/23/09
RE: Argument PoppaTab | 11/23/09
"Linux was the default option...most of them chose XP." Palmetto | 11/23/09
exactly... techadmin.cc@... | 11/25/09
Then there's boxfiddler | 11/26/09
bizarre naming conventions? techadmin.cc@... | 11/27/09
I think the naming issue is overstated Neon Samurai | 11/27/09
Good try kirovs@... | 11/23/09
Wrong Jason HinerTechrepublic Moderator | 11/24/09
jason, that may be what the manufacturers say, but Deadly Ernest | 11/24/09
It's not 2002 but... KimTjik | 11/24/09
Why didn't consumers like Linux on the netbook? techadmin.cc@... | 11/25/09
Several reasons KimTjik | 11/25/09
I strongly suspect another aspect of the whole issue was Deadly Ernest | 11/25/09
Bingo! techadmin.cc@... | 11/25/09
One Comment... (OK... I'm not capable of one comment...) techadmin.cc@... | 11/25/09
I can make the arguments, Jason jck | 12/04/09
You said it, Deadly!!! Ole Man | 11/24/09
Student- Not enough said, my friend jck0roses | 11/24/09
You are correct Ole Man | 11/25/09
So the lesson is give up if it's not easy? SteveCCC | 11/23/09
The lesson is quit wasting resources with the wrong approach. Palmetto | 11/23/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. georgedundon@... | 11/23/09
Linux Just Isn't User Friendly...Period! Arsynic | 11/23/09
Linux completely user-unfriendly marvin.novello@... | 11/23/09
Is this article by the same guy who wrote "The netbook is dead"? george.flecknell@... | 11/23/09
You can say that again, George Ole Man | 11/24/09
Who among us should "get over it"? matt.flaherty@... | 11/23/09
Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala rocks ... cwmoser@... | 11/23/09
Ubuntu 9.10 supported by IBM, HP, or you tonycopp@... | 11/23/09
The market has rejected Vista desktops. Could it happens to windows 7? manuelramoscaro@... | 11/23/09
Too late for that theory... thoiness | 11/23/09
That's a silly attitude. jcyphert@... | 11/23/09
Firefox is not a desktop OS eric.peckham@... | 11/23/09
yes, but... jcyphert@... | 11/23/09
BTW jcyphert@... | 11/23/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. father.nature@... | 11/23/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. harlananelson@... | 11/23/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. jimmanis | 11/23/09
It's the old argument Lennie_ | 11/23/09
Who would drive a home brew car? The 'G-Man.' | 11/23/09
These guys... BitHammer | 11/23/09
Yes... aharper@... | 11/23/09
I think you are talk out your arse. zerg1961 | 11/23/09
As well as a paragraph break? The 'G-Man.' | 11/23/09
RE: As well as paragraph break? PoppaTab | 11/23/09
It's not like that matheuz@... | 11/23/09
What does my computer become without POWER? The 'G-Man.' | 11/25/09
I agree jcyphert@... | 11/23/09
Scoreboard! sabula | 11/23/09
Buzz vs. Reality pghammer21@... | 11/23/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. bookkeeper@... | 11/23/09
Get your facts straight kirovs@... | 11/23/09
"Next time they shop I am sure they will consider it." Palmetto | 11/23/09
Not enough innovation? please!!! nido_rano@... | 11/23/09
I second that skywarp04@... | 11/26/09
Who cares who copied who The 'G-Man.' | 11/27/09
REALITY CHECK thoiness | 11/23/09
Right.... kirovs@... | 11/23/09
There's the propaganda... thoiness | 11/23/09
And lets go even one step further thoiness | 11/23/09
Really? kirovs@... | 11/23/09
You can live in your little Linux religion thoiness | 11/23/09
Fanboyism is annoying, not the OS. dbilling@... | 11/23/09
I am sick to death thoiness | 11/23/09
Thank you Thoiness, you summed it up perfectly smr19 | 11/27/09
Why go so far to the other extreme though Neon Samurai | 11/27/09
Obligatory smart-ass remark NickNielsen | 11/27/09
Obigatory smart-ass remark santeewelding | 11/27/09
Obigatory smart-ass remark santeewelding | 11/27/09
@neonsamurai thoiness | 12/02/09
@thoiness about your mailserver difficulties techadmin.cc@... | 12/03/09
Point taken kirovs@... | 11/23/09
It has usable programs thoiness | 11/23/09
Wow! Thousands of Windows users and not one BSOD in a year? techadmin.cc@... | 11/25/09
Pot calls cattle black... kirovs@... | 11/23/09
Now there's an intelligent retort thoiness | 11/23/09
And here we are kirovs@... | 11/23/09
There's a load... thoiness | 11/23/09
Dang that was funny scoopboys | 11/23/09
Check your reality, AGAIN! ricardoc@... | 12/03/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. Dr. Fowler | 11/23/09
If you know the term's not understood, Palmetto | 11/23/09
Good points, but pscheid@... | 11/23/09
With Clouds, comes rain and wind and snow swillardson | 11/23/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. gettydo@... | 11/23/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. swilsonw@... | 11/23/09
Windows paid-for vs shareware'd ratio tonycopp@... | 11/26/09
You are right... and very wrong. aharper@... | 11/23/09
Ignorance of the issue is bliss... trhodes@... | 11/23/09
In business, there needs to be a vendor. At home, it needs to be easy scoopboys | 11/23/09
Good points all. aharper@... | 11/23/09
Lost me a bit... scoopboys | 11/23/09
You are kidding right ? Lennie_ | 11/23/09
Sad kirovs@... | 11/23/09
Not sad, just inaccurate scoopboys | 11/23/09
Price check kirovs@... | 11/23/09
How can I get that level of support from MS? techadmin.cc@... | 11/25/09
Re: bennett6p6p@... | 12/20/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. ncmyrick | 11/23/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. jeffsmall@... | 11/23/09
Red Flag is still here verdadero2006@... | 11/23/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. gkellerman7 | 11/23/09
Whats that? SinisterSlay | 11/23/09
Mine is only 46, but is linux kirovs@... | 11/23/09
I do all that at once SinisterSlay | 11/23/09
Whose is bigger kirovs@... | 11/23/09
You didn't pay for it? SinisterSlay | 11/23/09
Leadcomp assembled for me. kirovs@... | 11/23/09
Can WIN98 function as a server? Ole Man | 12/18/09
I think you are mistaken thoiness | 11/23/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. doceeme@... | 11/23/09
Desktop Linux is fine for me and non technical friends. morgancoxuk@... | 11/23/09
Uhmm, Jason Hiner is wrong again parnote@... | 11/23/09
That means ... Jason HinerTechrepublic Moderator | 11/23/09
It also means... scoopboys | 11/24/09
2012? RDK55 | 11/24/09
PHooye!! on the market!!... JCitizen | 11/24/09
Not good journalism george.flecknell@... | 11/25/09
Touche' techadmin.cc@... | 11/25/09
Works great here! ruel24 | 11/23/09
Cart before the horse?? thoiness | 11/23/09
Ok Gates... trhodes@... | 11/23/09
Nah... thoiness | 11/23/09
A bigger bunch... KimTjik | 11/23/09
I don't know... thoiness | 11/23/09
?? trhodes@... | 11/23/09
It all depends on where your bias is... thoiness | 11/23/09
Even if... KimTjik | 11/23/09
Sorry, but no... ruel24 | 11/23/09
Make up your minds will ya? thoiness | 11/24/09
Interface ruel24 | 11/25/09
"not even sure Gates thought that one up all by himself... " Ole Man | 12/05/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. zenarcher1945 | 11/23/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. KimTjik | 11/23/09
It's all a numbers game. randall.jones.ctr@... | 11/23/09
When it's good, it's good. When it's bad it's awful. jmacg | 11/23/09
Happens: here is a solution kirovs@... | 11/23/09
It 'happens' but it shouldn't have jmacg | 11/23/09
Will work kirovs@... | 11/23/09
Will work jmacg | 11/23/09
Didn't work jmacg | 11/23/09
Hmmm, you have a different problem then kirovs@... | 11/24/09
I've done complete removal on many apps... techadmin.cc@... | 11/25/09
Good idea, here is another one kirovs@... | 11/25/09
and another good idea... techadmin.cc@... | 11/25/09
MS Brainwashing - linux works just fine. Dyalect | 11/23/09
yes, but mwalkeden@... | 11/23/09
dependency hell tomofumi | 11/25/09
That's why backups can be such a valuable thing... techadmin.cc@... | 11/25/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. jw@... | 11/23/09
Ubuntu frustrated newbie tonycopp@... | 11/25/09
A frustrated newbie techadmin.cc@... | 11/25/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. geoff@... | 11/23/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. jabulani42 | 11/23/09
Office 2003 is actually one of the good things Microsoft did jmacg | 11/23/09
Superior ony if you need the feature set it has to offer techadmin.cc@... | 11/25/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. bjswm@... | 11/23/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. nydge.sab@... | 11/23/09
...just ask yourself lessgravity | 11/23/09
Premature, maybe? mikifinaz1@... | 11/23/09
The comments system here totally sucks mfearby | 11/23/09
Print view works fine for me... SinisterSlay | 11/23/09
Seems OK.... now mfearby | 11/23/09
And to think, they want to move everything to the Cloud SinisterSlay | 11/23/09
Could also be due NickNielsen | 11/23/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. mike@... | 11/23/09
Windows is Linux grow up jazzy5 | 11/23/09
????? kirovs@... | 11/23/09
He should have added... thoiness | 11/24/09
Somehow I don't think so... techadmin.cc@... | 11/25/09
so what? brokenspokes | 11/23/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. al13745 | 11/23/09
2010 is the year of the linux desktop jimmydevore@... | 11/23/09
It's bad... thoiness | 11/24/09
When someone says "you've lost, get over it" .... wim.harthoorn@... | 11/24/09
Horses for courses, surely? ralph.bacon@... | 11/24/09
Horses for courses ...and that's the point surely? edward.kerr@... | 11/24/09
Ask Ballmer for desktop % instead zeke123 | 11/24/09
Right on spot kirovs@... | 11/24/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. inject_yourself_with_liberty@... | 11/24/09
Desktops rejected stomfi@... | 11/24/09
"Half Wrong" mudpuppy1 | 11/24/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. phillipe.nelson@... | 11/24/09
But then you don't really like your mother-in-law do you? techadmin.cc@... | 11/25/09
I HAD to give them Linux RipVan | 11/25/09
youshouldbefired bugmenot.com@... | 11/25/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. larrymarsden@... | 11/24/09
re: The market is the wrong measure wpeckham | 11/24/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. linuxisnotwindows | 11/24/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. opensourcepcs@... | 11/24/09
I have Windows 7 and all I can say thoiness | 11/24/09
Right trhodes@... | 11/25/09
Religious zealots thoiness | 11/30/09
Says the Microsoft disciple Ole Man | 11/30/09
Speaking from thoiness | 12/01/09
Cool as a cucumber Ole Man | 12/01/09
If you Linux guys thoiness | 12/01/09
@thoiness techadmin.cc@... | 12/02/09
FOS or someone needs to be fired... Perhaps an entire staff thoiness | 12/02/09
You can always tell when someone's on the losing side of an argument techadmin.cc@... | 12/03/09
well put, hopefully real readers are still around to consider it Neon Samurai | 12/03/09
ROTFL! techadmin.cc@... | 12/04/09
My oh my oh my SinisterSlay | 11/24/09
Bit of a religious war Ed Woychowsky | 11/24/09
A new generation of... thoiness | 11/24/09
For the fun of it KimTjik | 11/25/09
THAT explains why you need pictures NickNielsen | 11/25/09
Intelligence... thoiness | 11/30/09
Yep, straight through the mud.... that's the "smart" way to go Ole Man | 11/30/09
Or.... thoiness | 12/01/09
That's Mr. Claws to you sonny Ole Man | 12/01/09
@thoiness techadmin.cc@... | 12/02/09
Topic context.... thoiness | 12/02/09
re: Topic context... techadmin.cc@... | 12/03/09
Since I'm a support tech NickNielsen | 11/30/09
Mine has rarely steared me wrong... thoiness | 12/01/09
Mine continually attempts NickNielsen | 12/02/09
One word response: BALONEY Jdrabik | 11/24/09
Five out of six? thoiness | 11/24/09
Uhhhh... trhodes@... | 11/25/09
It would make sense... thoiness | 11/30/09
Right trhodes@... | 11/25/09
Religious zealots... thoiness | 11/30/09
Little bit defensive, there, don'tcha think? Ole Man | 11/30/09
Santa Clause thoiness | 12/01/09
You SHOULD be worried Ole Man | 12/01/09
Only the good thoiness | 12/01/09
And another thing.... thoiness | 11/24/09
http://hannahmontana.sourceforge.net/Site/Home.html bugmenot.com@... | 11/25/09
Troll or idiot? techadmin.cc@... | 11/25/09
Linux - works fine, lasts a long time softwareFlunky | 11/24/09
Seems like you're mighty biased for having "used Linux for years" humans-enabled.com | 11/24/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. LazLong | 11/24/09
How do you categorise Rin Tin Tin, Lassie and Linux drowningnotwaving | 11/24/09
You can go away again NickNielsen | 11/25/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. schetty@... | 11/25/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. jaikzelf@... | 11/25/09
I just have to add 2 cents worth...maybe 3 jck | 11/25/09
See...now I'm gonna take offense, Jason jck | 12/04/09
People shrink from the unfamiliar, even if it is better xambassador | 11/25/09
Windows is crappy enough... RipVan | 11/25/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. bjdtis@... | 11/25/09
You don't think Windows would do something like that? jedidethfreak | 11/27/09
It would take a major turn around of the MS paradigm for Deadly Ernest | 11/27/09
there is some crappy windoze stuff for portable devices also froske1 | 11/28/09
I can agree with one thing... sort of... thoiness | 12/02/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. roscoedelong@... | 11/28/09
LTS is the way to go .... ddas4 | 11/30/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. lass23 | 12/01/09
Don't be so sure. lass23 | 12/01/09
"Microsoft's ability to do harm" Ole Man | 12/01/09
How is it... thoiness | 12/01/09
Who's we? techadmin.cc@... | 12/01/09
I'd say you're right thoiness | 12/02/09
You seem to have NOT read your EULA Ole Man | 12/02/09
So.... thoiness | 12/03/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. shiraz.malik@... | 12/02/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. afuller@... | 12/02/09
It depends on how you define "The Market" jamiedavidmiller@... | 12/02/09
Wrong analysis and conclusion (long post) [Part I] ricardoc@... | 12/03/09
Wrong analysis and conclusion (long post) [Part II] ricardoc@... | 12/03/09
tl;dr andrew.lawlor@... | 12/04/09
Excellent points cleerb | 12/04/09
You're welcome! (no text) ricardoc@... | 12/04/09
"outright snobbery" is not limited to one application Ole Man | 12/04/09
RE: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. markbinner@... | 12/09/09
Pundits and presuppositions ps.techrep@... | 12/20/09
ReactOS rbomb | 12/28/09

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