Did you think it would take this long for the Web browser to trump the OS?
Jason Hiner | 04/20/09
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Bios / OS integration
mand78 | 04/20/09
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Look at Splastop
Dumphrey | 04/20/09
|
  
Perhaps the ultimate secure, OS?...
JCitizen | 04/21/09
|
   
An OS without updates
landen99@... | 04/24/09
|
    
Why not a downloading OS?
JCitizen | 04/24/09
|
     
Why not VDI for the home user?
jeff_oconnell@... | 04/25/09
|
     
There ya go! Thats what I'm talking about...
JCitizen | 04/25/09
|
     
The End of Personal Computing
vucliriel@... | 04/25/09
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Please forgive my point of view...
JCitizen | 04/26/09
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Yes, computing is going full circle.
jeff_oconnell@... | 04/26/09
|
     
I'm with you guys.
darpoke | 04/27/09
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@ jeff_oconnel "yes, computing has gone full circle"
vucliriel@... | 04/27/09
|
     
What can I say ...
jeff_oconnell@... | 04/27/09
|
     
@What can I say ...
vucliriel@... | 04/28/09
|
 
Re: Bios / OS integration
smokeytheblair@... | 04/20/09
|
  
Have you tried Mac OS X?
darpoke | 04/21/09
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how it could be done
SCHUTZENGEL1@... | 04/21/09
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Acess to Web Browser
emets2@... | 04/20/09
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Answers
Kim SJ | 04/20/09
|
  
Development of new web apps
joeller | 04/20/09
|
  
Support for web browsers
eantonorsi@... | 04/20/09
|
   
No problems with FF here but not a long list of bank sites either
Neon Samurai | 04/20/09
|
   
How secure can that bank be?
Greg Mix | 04/20/09
|
   
Dying to get robbed?
jpb@... | 04/20/09
|
   
Make it think Firefox is IE
MPG187 | 04/21/09
|
    
Good question..
JCitizen | 04/21/09
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not hard to do
Neon Samurai | 04/21/09
|
  
transparent web access...
straightlineeng@... | 04/20/09
|

I totally agree
pepumariusdoru | 04/20/09
|
 
Where to you develop
joeller | 04/20/09
|
  
I think he means "web developer"
Spiritusindomit@... | 04/20/09
|
   
Walking with blinders on?
jpb@... | 04/20/09
|
   
No, i do not
pepumariusdoru | 04/20/09
|
   
I am a Web developer
joeller | 04/21/09
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Browser in BIOS - it's already here.
nick@... | 04/20/09
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Another Windows... who cares?
dbain2k@... | 04/20/09
|
  
I think there's the case for a class action...
Kim SJ | 04/20/09
|
   
right on queue...
buddyfarr | 04/20/09
|
   
Not really
garyleroy@... | 04/20/09
|
    
yes and yes
chris@... | 04/20/09
|
     
force of Vista
fccymis@... | 04/20/09
|
     
how so?
SCHUTZENGEL1@... | 04/21/09
|
  
Majority of which tasks
joeller | 04/20/09
|
   
Can't speak to the others, but Oracle...
markh@... | 04/20/09
|
    
Oracle 10G front-end
joeller | 04/21/09
|
    
With the Sun Oracle merger...
JCitizen | 04/21/09
|
  
Vista Difference
Michael.Underwood@... | 04/20/09
|
   
Yup!
dbain2k@... | 04/20/09
|
  
WEPOS=Microsft's admission that XP wins
davida@... | 04/20/09
|
   
Except...
Spiritusindomit@... | 04/20/09
|
  
You're lying, here's how we can tell...
Spiritusindomit@... | 04/20/09
|
   
And you're mistaken.
Palmetto | 04/20/09
|
   
Sorry...
dbain2k@... | 04/20/09
|
    
Windows 2000 is not a Server OS????
joeller | 04/21/09
|
     
I think you missed the point
darryl@... | 04/21/09
|
     
Missed the disclaimer
joeller | 04/23/09
|
   
At least do some research before jumping in there
Bizzo | 04/23/09
|
   
Win ME was based on Win 2K? In what universe?
deepsand | 04/23/09
|
 
20 seconds...?
Spiritusindomit@... | 04/20/09
|
 
Browser in MB
oldhippe@... | 04/20/09
|
 
Dear god..
pickleman | 04/20/09
|
  
I didn't read it that way...
JCitizen | 04/21/09
|
   
A browser is NOT an operating system.
pickleman | 04/27/09
|
    
I think you're worrying too much about the words
darpoke | 04/27/09
|

Os will be relevant
syedsalmanakbar@... | 04/20/09
|
 
Perhaps the distinction between PC and Workstation will re-emerge.
Kim SJ | 04/20/09
|
 
I see where you're coming from...
Slvrknght | 04/20/09
|
  
bandwidth
buddyfarr | 04/20/09
|
   
I agree...
sarah.pierce@... | 04/20/09
|
  
Don't worry...
JCitizen | 04/21/09
|
 
Web Based Graphic Editors
Kingbackwards | 04/20/09
|
  
Well here is an article supporting my claim
syedsalmanakbar@... | 05/25/09
|
   
Moving as little as a Gig into the cloud is painfully slow.
deepsand | 05/25/09
|
    
Amazon seems to be pushing shipped media
Neon Samurai | 05/26/09
|
     
Useful for initialization of large files.
deepsand | 05/26/09
|
   
Cost vs Speed.
Kingbackwards | 05/28/09
|
    
" ... approaching a point ..."
deepsand | 05/28/09
|
     
Not about the Cloud
Kingbackwards | 05/29/09
|

No but it still hasn't trumped the OS either.
bbrumfield@... | 04/20/09
|

Maybe as it is packaged now
aroper@... | 04/20/09
|

I am in total agreement...
dcolbert@... | 04/20/09
|

WebTV: a success?
thisisfutile | 04/20/09
|
 
WebTV is around, but via golf-course deals
avidtrober@... | 04/21/09
|
 
Microsoft owns it
jeslurkin | 10/21/09
|

I agree.
aspoor@... | 04/20/09
|

It will take a long time because of the economics.
macsales@... | 04/20/09
|

It's all about your definitions
DT Tech | 04/20/09
|
 
It's not about definitions. It's about having a clue.
pickleman | 04/20/09
|
  
Wow. I guess I struck a nerve
DT Tech | 04/21/09
|
   
It's sure hard to know how to respond
darpoke | 04/21/09
|
    
Not to mention the erroneous statement...
JCitizen | 04/21/09
|
     
my understanding also, Darwin is a BSD derivitive
Neon Samurai | 04/21/09
|
     
Thanks neon...
JCitizen | 04/21/09
|
     
the ZNet forums...
Neon Samurai | 04/22/09
|
     
going OT here, but
darpoke | 04/22/09
|
     
The only ACLs I've worked with...
JCitizen | 04/23/09
|
     
ZNet Forums revisited
joeller | 04/23/09
|
     
Whoa, nice correlation
darpoke | 04/23/09
|
     
ZDNet and competition
Neon Samurai | 04/23/09
|
     
Full competition leads to monopoly
joeller | 05/04/09
|
     
As a pure extrapolation
darpoke | 05/05/09
|
     
darpok, my understanding also
Neon Samurai | 05/05/09
|
     
Thanks, Neon
darpoke | 05/06/09
|
     
Depends on the Laws
joeller | 05/06/09
|

Not Yet but...
dennis@... | 04/20/09
|

Maybe, but probably not
bsauer@... | 04/20/09
|
 
and when desktop PCs came out...
Kim SJ | 04/20/09
|
  
Not to sound skeptical, but
darpoke | 04/28/09
|

Am I living in an alternate universe?
Ian Thurston | 04/20/09
|

True Web Apps or IE apps
chris@... | 04/20/09
|

I don't think the OS will ever not matter
SinisterSlay | 04/20/09
|
 
Right On!
vucliriel@... | 04/21/09
|

It's a sad state of affairs...
vucliriel@... | 04/20/09
|
 
Why couldn't the browser port to a drive?
JCitizen | 04/21/09
|
 
Removal of choice has always been a disservice to the user
darpoke | 04/28/09
|
  
Hence my original comments ;)
vucliriel@... | 04/28/09
|
   
I think the problem is economics.
darpoke | 04/29/09
|

Tunnel Vision
jeff_oconnell@... | 04/20/09
|

Thanks Jason
Meesha | 04/21/09
|

Follow the money
jhoward@... | 04/21/09
|

Question assumes fact not in evidence.
deepsand | 04/21/09
|

Connectivity
ndibongo@... | 04/22/09
|
 
what will run the global abiquitous system we connect too?
Neon Samurai | 04/22/09
|
 
Connectively between what?
deepsand | 04/22/09
|

RTFA, guys
darpoke | 04/23/09
|

The bootable browser that came and went and nobody cared
jeff_oconnell@... | 04/23/09
|
 
started in win95
Neon Samurai | 04/24/09
|
  
it was 95
SinisterSlay | 04/24/09
|
   
Never had problems with 98SE crashing; and, still don't.
deepsand | 04/25/09
|
    
I'd love to say hardware or drivers, but I just don't know
SinisterSlay | 04/26/09
|
    
98 was a very very good OS
joeller | 04/30/09
|
     
You can add my two thumbs up for win98SE...
vucliriel@... | 04/30/09
|
     
98 vs XP
MPG187 | 05/05/09
|
     
Actually , I have a theory
darpoke | 05/06/09
|
     
Every wants computers like Majel Barret
joeller | 05/06/09
|
     
@ 98 vs XP - Try XP Micro!
vucliriel@... | 05/06/09
|
     
@ Actually , I have a theory
vucliriel@... | 05/06/09
|
     
Does XP Micro get updates? (nt)
Neon Samurai | 05/06/09
|
     
@vucliriel
darpoke | 05/07/09
|
     
@ Does XP Micro get updates? (nt)
vucliriel@... | 05/07/09
|
     
That's fascinating.
darpoke | 05/08/09
|
     
jury is still deliberating over Windows7
Neon Samurai | 05/08/09
|
     
@ That's fascinating.
vucliriel@... | 05/09/09
|
     
They only have themselves to blame, too.
darpoke | 05/11/09
|
     
@ @ That's fascinating // @ They've only have themselves ...
joeller | 05/11/09
|
     
@ joeller, in response to your previous post.
vucliriel@... | 05/12/09
|
     
exposed is not open
Neon Samurai | 05/12/09
|
     
It's still *cathedral* vs. *bazaar*
darpoke | 05/12/09
|
     
Hey Darpoke, I've been athinkin' about your comments re
Deadly Ernest | 05/13/09
|
     
Yep.
darpoke | 05/14/09
|
     
I would suggest one adjustment.. business goal
Neon Samurai | 05/14/09
|
     
Natch.
darpoke | 05/14/09
|
     
In this case, successful total war means death
Neon Samurai | 05/14/09
|
     
War always means the death of diversity
darpoke | 05/15/09
|
     
@ Neon and Darpoke :D
vucliriel@... | 05/15/09
|
     
Darpoke, I think there may be a bit of confusion going on here -
Deadly Ernest | 05/16/09
|
     
Confusion? In apperance, maybe!
vucliriel@... | 05/16/09
|
     
Vucliriel - your points on the different approaches are right
Deadly Ernest | 05/16/09
|
     
I think we both agree, Deadly Ernest :)
vucliriel@... | 05/17/09
|
  
I thought maybe he was talking about...
JCitizen | 04/24/09
|
 
"the whole psychology of it?"
deepsand | 04/24/09
|
  
Exactly,
jeff_oconnell@... | 04/25/09
|
   
Remember Windows 98 'Lite' and 'Micro'?
vucliriel@... | 04/25/09
|
    
I like your industrial comparison...
JCitizen | 06/06/09
|
   
Windows Core
joeller | 04/30/09
|
    
Could you be more specific?
vucliriel@... | 04/30/09
|
     
Linux From Scratch
Neon Samurai | 04/30/09
|
     
Explanation from Windows 2008 Server Core Installation Manual
joeller | 05/01/09
|
     
@ Linux from scratch... About Compatibility and Code Efficiency
vucliriel@... | 05/01/09
|
     
partically correct
Neon Samurai | 05/01/09
|
     
Have a look at Small Linux and others like it
Deadly Ernest | 06/06/09
|
  
And THAT is the "Sanity Check" that needs to be done!
vucliriel@... | 04/25/09
|
   
Yep; there's no "personal" computing if dependent on another.
deepsand | 04/25/09
|
 
I hate to defend "greedy sue happy lawyers", but...
darpoke | 04/27/09
|
  
Prepare to get burned...
SinisterSlay | 04/27/09
|
   
I guess you consider 'Convenience' Mandatory and Freedom of Choice Optional
vucliriel@... | 04/27/09
|
    
The thing is...
SinisterSlay | 04/28/09
|
     
IE Integration Paradigm
vucliriel@... | 04/28/09
|
     
your welcome to use windows 95....
SinisterSlay | 04/28/09
|
     
I'm confused
NickNielsen | 04/29/09
|
     
@ your welcome to use windows 95....
vucliriel@... | 04/29/09
|
     
I cannot saddly
SinisterSlay | 04/29/09
|
   
You seem to be confused. Allow me to clarify.
darpoke | 04/30/09
|
    
You speak a good game but have you noticed
SinisterSlay | 04/30/09
|
     
Well I guess that's what we're really asking here.
darpoke | 05/01/09
|
     
almost had me till this point
SinisterSlay | 05/01/09
|
     
Actually the CLI is a basic component of the OS.
darpoke | 05/01/09
|
     
And that's partially my point
SinisterSlay | 05/01/09
|
     
unbundle and provide a solection
Neon Samurai | 05/01/09
|
    
Fair? In business? Really
joeller | 05/01/09
|
     
Hands up, I confess - I am an idealist :-)
darpoke | 05/01/09
|
     
@darpoke..
JCitizen | 05/01/09
|
     
Laissez-faire capitalism tends to monopoly
joeller | 05/03/09
|
     
Well said...(nt)
JCitizen | 05/03/09
|

333 posts
The 'G-Man.' | 05/06/09
|

A light hardware loaded browser instead of an OS
Deadly Ernest | 05/07/09
|

OS is still Relevent
mamies@... | 05/26/09
|
 
This is insanity central, so you're in the right place - OK
Deadly Ernest | 05/26/09
|
  
It's entirely possible
SinisterSlay | 05/27/09
|
   
The differences lie in the abstraction layers ...
deepsand | 05/27/09
|
    
By that logic... linux should be epicly slow running windows games
SinisterSlay | 05/27/09
|
     
Why must Linux be virtualized?
deepsand | 05/27/09
|
     
I'm no expert on this, but my understanding is
Deadly Ernest | 05/27/09
|
     
Windows runs pretty fast on a Linux based host OS
Neon Samurai | 05/28/09
|
     
WINE is win32 dependencies not a Windows emulator
Neon Samurai | 05/28/09
|
     
Thats my point though, its an entire extra level of libraries
SinisterSlay | 05/28/09
|
     
I was mostly just clarifying WINE
Neon Samurai | 05/28/09
|

Deepsand and others - Google Analytics
Deadly Ernest | 05/31/09
|
 
Imprecise, misleading, and erroneous.
deepsand | 06/01/09
|
  
So you say the Google supporter who wrote the article at
Deadly Ernest | 06/01/09
|
   
Whether writer or reader, the conclusions here set forth are still wrong.
deepsand | 06/02/09
|
    
So you say all the quotes I gave in my last post are wrong
Deadly Ernest | 06/02/09
|
    
I worry
santeewelding | 06/02/09
|
    
DE : As a user, I know what it does; and, what effort is required.
deepsand | 06/02/09
|
     
Doesn't have squat to do with what you're talking about
santeewelding | 06/02/09
|
     
The semi-colon is my friend.
deepsand | 06/02/09
|
     
The colon
santeewelding | 06/02/09
|
     
Object or Person?
deepsand | 06/02/09
|
     
Don't tell me
santeewelding | 06/02/09
|
     
I'm sorry, Dave, but I'm afraid I can't answer that, ...
deepsand | 06/03/09
|
    
santee : Mine is born of sweat, blood & tears.
deepsand | 06/02/09
|
    
DE : continued at bottom, at ...
deepsand | 06/02/09
|
users dont use computers
mart@... | 04/20/09
|

right on
buddyfarr | 04/20/09
|
 
3 Lefts to go Right
thisisfutile | 04/20/09
|
 
We call that
scott@... | 04/20/09
|
Nice insight...
Sarnath | 04/20/09
|
RE: Sanity check: Have we now entered the post-OS era?
public@... | 04/20/09
|
RE: Sanity check: Have we now entered the post-OS era?
udayan.banerjee@... | 04/20/09
|

I think we have entered a Post-Microsoft Era
bbrumfield@... | 04/20/09
|
 
I agree
Kim SJ | 04/20/09
|
  
Thank you
bbrumfield@... | 04/20/09
|
  
I like the way you think.
Slvrknght | 04/20/09
|
 
Linux is not ready
Traxxion | 04/20/09
|
  
Give Mandriva Linux 2009 RC 2 a chance.
bbrumfield@... | 04/20/09
|
   
KDE3 does it
Neon Samurai | 04/21/09
|
    
I notice I occasionally get the same thing with...
JCitizen | 04/21/09
|
     
our website has detected a virus on your system
Neon Samurai | 04/22/09
|
     
Ha! HA! For sure!...(NT)
JCitizen | 04/23/09
|
  
What is wrong with vista?
syedsalmanakbar@... | 04/22/09
|
   
Stability is not an issue but workability sure is!
vucliriel@... | 04/23/09
|
 
Linux users have their heads in a cloud.
garyoco@... | 04/20/09
|
  
I am not solely Linux
bbrumfield@... | 04/20/09
|
   
Ouch!
garyoco@... | 04/20/09
|
    
I was thinking the same...
thisisfutile | 04/20/09
|
    
that includes Apache right?
Neon Samurai | 04/21/09
|
  
Wrong, and if you include MacOS X even wronger...
Kim SJ | 04/20/09
|
   
Bite me
garyoco@... | 04/20/09
|
    
Who said anything about open source?
Kim SJ | 04/20/09
|
     
Let's keep it clean.
garyoco@... | 04/20/09
|
     
Who said anything about Open Source?
garyoco@... | 04/20/09
|
     
depends on the level of support you want
Neon Samurai | 04/21/09
|
    
The Mac OS
Dumphrey | 04/20/09
|
     
Windows runs some FOSS software too.
garyoco@... | 04/20/09
|
     
I love that FOSS prefers cross platform support
Neon Samurai | 04/21/09
|
     
I used to do business with a guy..
JCitizen | 04/21/09
|
     
Darwin again?
Neon Samurai | 04/22/09
|
     
The guy seemed quite satisfied...
JCitizen | 04/23/09
|
  
Whoosh!
mckinnej | 04/20/09
|
   
Actually, you missed the point.
garyoco@... | 04/20/09
|
    
I can't disagree
bbrumfield@... | 04/20/09
|
   
works out better with dualboot anyhow
Neon Samurai | 04/21/09
|
  
Some heads are somewhere, to be sure.
garnerl | 04/20/09
|
   
Take your blinkers off for heavens sake.
garyoco@... | 04/20/09
|
  
Open Source dosn't only mean Linux
masonm@... | 04/20/09
|
   
I agree with you.
garyoco@... | 04/21/09
|
    
I Agree
masonm@... | 04/21/09
|
  
Clouds are where some people clearly live...
pickleman | 04/20/09
|
   
Blind as bats
garyoco@... | 04/20/09
|
    
going off-topic here, but
darpoke | 04/21/09
|
     
Sheer Frustration
garyoco@... | 04/24/09
|
     
@garyoco...
JCitizen | 04/24/09
|
     
That makes it pretty clear
darpoke | 04/27/09
|
  
one person's comment equates to all "Linux users"?
Neon Samurai | 04/21/09
|
   
According to the original article, it doesn't matter if Linux is successful
Michael.Ross@... | 04/21/09
|
    
it is a common occurance
Neon Samurai | 04/21/09
|
     
I'll take the flack but quote me accurately please.
garyoco@... | 04/25/09
|
   
A justified generalisation
garyoco@... | 04/25/09
|
 
Guess Again
bsauer@... | 04/20/09
|
  
Couldn't agree more.
garyoco@... | 04/20/09
|

Sorry but you are totally wrong
public@... | 04/21/09
|
 
However it will never happen.
public@... | 04/21/09
|
  
I much agree with your second post
darpoke | 04/23/09
|
   
There are vendors that are attempting..
JCitizen | 04/26/09
|
    
From your last sentence
darpoke | 04/27/09
|
     
Not all "hardware" solutions have FOSS attached..
JCitizen | 05/01/09
|
     
As far as I'm aware,
darpoke | 05/05/09
|
     
That sounds like my new media center PC...
JCitizen | 05/05/09
|
     
Good god man!
darpoke | 05/06/09
|
     
Yep, its bad IF you want cable recording..
JCitizen | 05/07/09
|
     
That's my key issue with DRM
darpoke | 05/07/09
|
     
For sure...
JCitizen | 05/07/09
|
No, a Net terminal does not suite my needs
ochevet | 04/20/09
|

I'm not arguing that net terminals will take over
Jason Hiner | 04/20/09
|
 
Yes, but...
admin@... | 04/20/09
|
 
True enough ...
Osiyo53@... | 04/21/09
|

The OS Matters
support@... | 04/20/09
|
 
Hmm. Maybe the OS deosn't matter, but the earning curve *does*
Kim SJ | 04/20/09
|
  
The earning curve is everything.
garyoco@... | 04/20/09
|
  
don't underestimate
mailboweb@... | 04/21/09
|
   
Good Points
garyoco@... | 04/27/09
|

Nothing is Impossible
Kingbackwards | 04/20/09
|
RE: Sanity check: Have we now entered the post-OS era?
SKDTech | 04/20/09
|

Home Users
paul.burden@... | 04/20/09
|
 
Having a command line option has its advantages...
Kim SJ | 04/20/09
|
 
A few things to consider
Dumphrey | 04/20/09
|
  
Sure, but...
paul.burden@... | 04/20/09
|
   
I'm not with you on this one
markh@... | 04/20/09
|
 
paul burden, you described Linux shortcomings in one sentence
john3347@... | 04/20/09
|
  
Complexity is not a property of Linux..
Kim SJ | 04/20/09
|
  
Sure with Linux circa 1990-2000
aroper@... | 04/21/09
|
Sanity Check...
slepre@... | 04/20/09
|

Another point to add
Dumphrey | 04/20/09
|

Good point,
vucliriel@... | 04/25/09
|
OS Still Matters
max@... | 04/20/09
|

OS is declining in importance.
nick@... | 04/20/09
|

Of course the OS matters
garyoco@... | 04/20/09
|
 
It's not about cloud computing
Jason Hiner | 04/20/09
|
  
It's not the end of the OS either.
garyoco@... | 04/20/09
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True, but..
JCitizen | 04/24/09
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The only reason for OS upgrade I see
peterquenault@... | 04/20/09
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It's all relative...
darpoke | 04/20/09
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Net bandwidth will soar
Kim SJ | 04/20/09
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That's one of the arguments at the heart of the network neutrality debate.
darpoke | 04/21/09
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Sounds Like...
The 'G-Man.' | 04/20/09
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Full circle
peterquenault@... | 04/20/09
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Maybe so.....
Sensor Guy | 04/20/09
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RE: Sanity check: Have we now entered the post-OS era?
rohanloh@... | 04/20/09
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Well, I'm a developer of smart home systems...
Kim SJ | 04/20/09
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If people only realized.
bbrumfield@... | 04/20/09
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Yep ....
Osiyo53@... | 04/22/09
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Sounds a lot like some of the PLC logic...
JCitizen | 04/23/09
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Yes and No ...
Osiyo53@... | 04/23/09
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Brting back cams and relays, darnit!
NickNielsen | 04/23/09
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Chuckle ....
Osiyo53@... | 04/24/09
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Vacuum tubes and all the other discrete components, too.
deepsand | 04/24/09
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Yes, that was coming...
JCitizen | 04/24/09
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Thats a good point
Dumphrey | 04/20/09
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Stupid question
Brian G | 04/20/09
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Absolutely spot on!
garyoco@... | 04/20/09
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If you get right down to it
Dumphrey | 04/20/09
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I'm not suggesting the OS will disappear
Jason Hiner | 04/20/09
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Uhh..
pickleman | 04/20/09
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Well, yes!
garyoco@... | 04/21/09
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Actually the car example works just fine...
darpoke | 04/27/09
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Still need the engine to move
joeller | 05/04/09
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I hate to perpetuate the quibbling
darpoke | 05/05/09
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Car users and Computer users have never cared about engine.
joeller | 05/06/09
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You said it.
darpoke | 05/07/09
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Play nice.
joeller | 05/04/09
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Indeed ...
Jason Hiner | 04/20/09
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This debate has been slightly hijacked.
Kim SJ | 04/20/09
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OS is a "local" interface to the system. Not the office tools.
greg.hruby@... | 04/20/09
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Forgot .. Kudos to Brian G - because
greg.hruby@... | 04/20/09
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Computers become less expensive to operate! Yaaa!
kgbean | 04/20/09
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RE: Sanity check: Have we now entered the post-OS era?
XMLFRE@... | 04/20/09
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All an operating system is, is a suite
Tony Hopkinson | 04/20/09
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Re: Vista and Phase out XP
Anita Y. Mathis | 04/20/09
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Sorry
Traxxion | 04/20/09
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Amen
blarman | 04/20/09
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Better user interfaces will demand bigger and better OS's
wmjas.shaw@... | 04/20/09
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Not to burst your bubble but...
blarman | 04/20/09
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RE: Sanity check: Have we now entered the post-OS era?
ddocean@... | 04/20/09
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People don't buy computers to run operating systems...
GrizzledGeezer | 04/20/09
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Of course the OS matters, it is merely evolving.
Michael.Ross@... | 04/20/09
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I agree...
George@... | 04/20/09
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RE: Sanity check: Have we now entered the post-OS era?
joeller | 04/20/09
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Web browser based programs
wdewey@... | 04/20/09
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Right On!
vucliriel@... | 04/21/09
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RE: Sanity check: Have we now entered the post-OS era?
techrepublic@... | 04/20/09
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Peaked out
Breezeserve | 04/20/09
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No yet
GEVernon | 04/20/09
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RE: Sanity check: Have we now entered the post-OS era?
MPG187 | 04/20/09
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RE: Sanity check: Have we now entered the post-OS era?
hartej95@... | 04/20/09
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A more accurate analysis...
Spiritusindomit@... | 04/20/09
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RE: Sanity check: Have we now entered the post-OS era?
bspreng | 04/20/09
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Packaging
cbadger1@... | 04/20/09
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The OS has many deficiencies and is therefore not mature enough
landen99@... | 04/20/09
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Try doing web without an OS!
Baldrick9 | 04/20/09
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RE: Sanity check: Have we now entered the post-OS era?
jrbrow1 | 04/20/09
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OS's will never go away. However dumb terminals will be on the rise.
Photogenic Memory | 04/20/09
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Re: OS's will never go away. However dumb terminals will be on the rise.
ssampier | 04/23/09
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Ha!...
JCitizen | 04/24/09
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Oddly Enough, Smartphones are the Last Frontier...
vucliriel@... | 04/25/09
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Sorry..
JCitizen | 04/26/09
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Post-OS Centralization of Authority and loss of Personal Freedoms
vucliriel@... | 04/27/09
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Your just putting words in my communication...
JCitizen | 04/28/09
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I'm not in the paranoid party yet either
darpoke | 04/29/09
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It's worse than that
Neon Samurai | 04/29/09
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I don't feel I've lost any freedom "yet"...
JCitizen | 05/01/09
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RE: Sanity check: Have we now entered the post-OS era?
kizerian@... | 04/21/09
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Post OS ERA? I don't think so.
dpresley_50201@... | 04/22/09
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The article may have gone over your head, so I will try to explain
SinisterSlay | 04/23/09
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No connection
MPG187 | 04/27/09
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then your SOL
SinisterSlay | 04/27/09
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my own server
MPG187 | 04/28/09
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Re: Post OS ERA? I don't think so.
dpresley_50201@... | 04/24/09
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With so many of my favorite apps being cross platform...
JCitizen | 04/24/09
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Microsoft, what will they do?
Tonie16 | 04/30/09
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Oh they will.
SinisterSlay | 05/03/09
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Do we really need 64-bit now?
Tonie16 | 05/11/09
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business is rarely the motivation for new hardware
Neon Samurai | 05/11/09
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Actually, with the right hardware and software multicore 64 bit
Deadly Ernest | 05/12/09
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that's a different setup though a viable one
Neon Samurai | 05/12/09
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Plus the added security x64 brings to the table...
JCitizen | 05/12/09
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XP Support
vucliriel@... | 05/12/09
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No updates for XP Micro
Neon Samurai | 05/12/09
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You're mistaken...
vucliriel@... | 05/13/09
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how long until it includes the critical updates from this week?
Neon Samurai | 05/14/09
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Live by the cloud; die by the cloud.
deepsand | 05/17/09
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Cloudiness...(edited)
JCitizen | 05/17/09
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Re. the 56kbs limit.
deepsand | 05/17/09
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New limits...
JCitizen | 05/18/09
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What he found was, not a way around the Shannon limit, but, ...
deepsand | 05/18/09
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Here it is!...
JCitizen | 05/25/09
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Slow going.
deepsand | 05/25/09
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Oh well...
JCitizen | 05/28/09
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2 possibilites.
deepsand | 05/28/09
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Hopefully it is item 2..
JCitizen | 05/30/09
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Bear in mind, though, that even once the hurdle noted in item 2 ...
deepsand | 05/31/09
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Very much
santeewelding | 05/31/09
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Yes, but, ...
deepsand | 05/31/09
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Self
santeewelding | 05/31/09
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Case not overlooked.
deepsand | 06/01/09
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I think you are gaining.
santeewelding | 06/01/09
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The line is ...
deepsand | 06/01/09
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The number
santeewelding | 06/01/09
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santee, deepsand,
darpoke | 06/02/09
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Every word, Darpoke
santeewelding | 06/02/09
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Sharing profound views,
darpoke | 06/02/09
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The smaller they get
santeewelding | 06/02/09
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Smaller = higher density.
deepsand | 06/02/09
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Point.
darpoke | 06/03/09
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More fallout from Google
deepsand | 05/26/09
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I wonder how these online shops etc go with people like me
Deadly Ernest | 05/26/09
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For me, the issue is one of performance.
deepsand | 05/27/09
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The sole reason for the existence of GA at all is to collect
Deadly Ernest | 05/27/09
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As a merchant who uses GA, I must differ.
deepsand | 05/27/09
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That just means they're doing something else with it as they
Deadly Ernest | 05/27/09
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I agree...
vucliriel@... | 05/28/09
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Precisely what is it you think that GA collects, that is ...
deepsand | 05/28/09
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That behavior, vucliriel, has absolulely nothing to do with GA.
deepsand | 05/28/09
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Actually, my main concern is the slow down caused by GA
Deadly Ernest | 05/28/09
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That behavior, DE, is not dependent on GA.
deepsand | 05/28/09
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Deepsand, It matter not where the ads come from
Deadly Ernest | 05/28/09
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Again, DE, it is not GA which serves as the originator.
deepsand | 05/28/09
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Sandy, I'll answer both your last two posts here for simplicity
Deadly Ernest | 05/28/09
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Where to begin?
deepsand | 05/28/09
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Deepsand, unless your site is dramatically different to most
Deadly Ernest | 05/28/09
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The trouble with in-your-face advertizing...
vucliriel@... | 05/29/09
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DE, TCP/IP is a STATELESS protocol.
deepsand | 05/31/09
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vucliriel : To repeat, ads are selected by AD SERVERS.
deepsand | 05/31/09
|
     
TCP/IP is a stateless protocol that still goes through a
Deadly Ernest | 05/31/09
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SYN/ACK don't matter; the fact remains that there remains no ...
deepsand | 06/01/09
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Just the sort of thing
santeewelding | 06/01/09
|
     
All of my sieves are prime.
deepsand | 06/01/09
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I never said there was a continuous connections only that
Deadly Ernest | 06/01/09
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I think this subject deserves a whole new article...
JCitizen | 06/02/09
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DE: How many sites use only content of their own?
deepsand | 06/02/09
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JC: Block GA toward what end?
deepsand | 06/02/09
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Deepsand, many sites od use only their own content as to do
Deadly Ernest | 06/02/09
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No, it is not the case that "the user knows they're being redirected"
deepsand | 06/02/09
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As I understand it,
darpoke | 06/03/09
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Darpoke, one of the biggest security concerns is to do with
Deadly Ernest | 06/03/09
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J Citizen - you suggested we take this to another thread
Deadly Ernest | 06/03/09
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Not to sound flippant, DE
darpoke | 06/03/09
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Darpoke, to understand the point about time you need to
Deadly Ernest | 06/03/09
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Dammit now you've just piqued my interest!
darpoke | 06/03/09
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Darpoke, if you look at the following wikis they explains it all
Deadly Ernest | 06/03/09
|
     
There can be no reasonable expectation of privacy in a public place.
deepsand | 06/03/09
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There is a legal support for reasonable privacy in
Deadly Ernest | 06/04/09
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Change rooms & toilets are NOT PUBLIC PLACES !!! [eom]
deepsand | 06/05/09
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A change room or toilet in a store is as much a public place
Deadly Ernest | 06/05/09
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No, DE, they are PRIVATE places within Public ones.
deepsand | 06/05/09
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Hey, you're the one sayign a shop is a public place
Deadly Ernest | 06/05/09
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Irrelevant and non sequitur
deepsand | 06/05/09
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Yeah I know it is. but you raised the point on the privacy
Deadly Ernest | 06/05/09
|
     
No; what was irrelevant & non sequitur was ...
deepsand | 06/05/09
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When I choose to go to a specific store I don't mind them
Deadly Ernest | 06/05/09
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@DE and deepsand...(edited)
JCitizen | 06/06/09
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Too expensive...
TonytheTiger | 05/28/09
|
   
What's this about an Ohio case worth millions?
Deadly Ernest | 05/28/09
|

Who needs this s**t?!
vucliriel@... | 05/27/09
|
 
" Obvious snoop?"
deepsand | 05/27/09
|
  
I can see your point...
vucliriel@... | 05/28/09
|
   
Web analytical apps., including GA, collect no more than is ...
deepsand | 05/28/09
|
    
There is web analysis software you can get to run
Deadly Ernest | 05/28/09
|
     
Complete web analytics requires at least 2, sometimes 3, types of data.
deepsand | 05/28/09
|
DE : How to do this?
deepsand | 06/02/09
|

it won' t work with me anyway as I don't allow ANY
Deadly Ernest | 06/03/09
|
 
Incorrect and evasive.
deepsand | 06/03/09
|
  
No red herring from this end
Deadly Ernest | 06/04/09
|
   
I had a quick look on the GA page
darpoke | 06/04/09
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Spot on.
deepsand | 06/05/09
|
     
In regards to the operation of the on-line store, the owner
Deadly Ernest | 06/05/09
|
     
Asked and answered.
deepsand | 06/05/09
|
    
What types of information are gathered and why?
Deadly Ernest | 06/05/09
|
     
Asked and answered, ...
deepsand | 06/05/09
|
     
Stylistically
santeewelding | 06/05/09
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Actually it's not answered - you've not told me what extra
Deadly Ernest | 06/05/09
|
     
Not only have I stated the what , but also the why
deepsand | 06/05/09
|
     
This sub-thread started off about my blocking GA
Deadly Ernest | 06/05/09
|
     
I'm not about to spend eternity repeating myself.
deepsand | 06/05/09
|
   
How about directly answering the question posed?
deepsand | 06/05/09
|
    
Once you've got the money, what more data do you want?
Deadly Ernest | 06/05/09
|
     
It's all set forth in the question.
deepsand | 06/05/09
|
     
As I previously explained, all the data you need about my
Deadly Ernest | 06/05/09
|
     
Kindly re-read the question.
deepsand | 06/05/09
|
     
As I said before - if you use a third party shopping cart
Deadly Ernest | 06/05/09
|
     
To repeat, it's NOT ABOUT COOKIES .
deepsand | 06/05/09
|
     
The point is you have the capability to gather the data yourself
Deadly Ernest | 06/05/09
|
     
Once again, NO.
deepsand | 06/05/09
|
  
In theory, perhaps
NickNielsen | 06/04/09
|
   
Bad site design.
deepsand | 06/05/09
|
    
Come to think of it....
JCitizen | 06/19/09
|
     
Add (3rd party) to allow?
deepsand | 06/20/09
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When you're ready, DE, to substantiate your claims ...
deepsand | 06/05/09
|

I suggest you take a reading course - never said they did
Deadly Ernest | 06/05/09
|
 
Suggest that you re-read your own posts, including recent one ...
deepsand | 06/05/09
|
  
As I said in the original post of my
Deadly Ernest | 06/05/09
|
   
Nope, on all counts.
deepsand | 06/06/09
|

Deepsand, you've not yet explained why I should cut security
Deadly Ernest | 06/05/09
|
 
The claim that GA compomises security is ...
deepsand | 06/05/09
|
  
I don't need to prove GA does a thing, they use a system
Deadly Ernest | 06/05/09
|
   
The claim you here make re. GA distributing malware is utter nonsense.
deepsand | 06/06/09
|
   
I suggest you do a course on reading and the English language
Deadly Ernest | 06/06/09
|
   
I suggest that you actually study the issues involved, ...
deepsand | 06/07/09
|
   
Deepsand - I understand the issue, but you seem to be
Deadly Ernest | 06/07/09
|
   
Wrong on all counts.
deepsand | 06/08/09
|
Google Analytics Developer Docs
deepsand | 06/06/09
|
RE: Sanity check: Have we now entered the post-OS era?
vvtunes@... | 06/15/09
|

Whoa.
darpoke | 06/16/09
|

Brilliant!
vucliriel@... | 06/16/09
|

What people want and what they need are two quite different matters.
deepsand | 06/17/09
|
 
Offensive and Condescending :(
vucliriel@... | 06/18/09
|
  
Sorry if the facts do not well comport with your fantasies.
deepsand | 06/18/09
|
No.. Web is not everything..
blackspidey | 07/13/09
|

Even firmware has an OS
Neon Samurai | 07/13/09
|
RE: Sanity check: Have we now entered the post-OS era?
anthony.b@... | 07/21/09
|
RE: Sanity check: Have we now entered the post-OS era?
gypkap@... | 10/14/09
|