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When IBM created the ThinkPad line in the 90s, they set the gold standard for quality in notebook computers. In 2005, IBM exited the PC business and sold off its desktop and laptop lines to Lenovo. Is the ThinkPad still the standard or has it gone downhill?

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When IBM first introduced the portable PC, it was little more than a luggable unit like the Osbourne 1. It then went on to create some laptop PCs, but it wasn’t until they created the ThinkPad line in 1992 that IBM became a force to be reckoned with. IBM ThinkPads pretty much set the standard for laptops in the 90s and into the early twenty-first century.

Even though IBM was mired in third place behind Dell and HP for market share for years, the ThinkPad line continued to shine, especially in the business place. Ultimately, however, IBM decided to exit the desktop and laptop market, selling its business to Lenovo in 2005. Lenovo got the rights to the ThinkPad name and was even allowed to use the IBM logo.

The question is, however, even though the ThinkPad name remains, are they STILL the same solid ThinkPads that had such a reputation? I’m not sure.

The long and winding road to Lenovo

IBM shipped the first ThinkPad 700s back in 1992. They were all 486-based laptops running Windows 3.1. Among the innovations in the ThinkPad line were the first TFT (thin film transistor) LCD screen and the TrackPoint pointing device. ThinkPads were also famous for their sleek black cases and near-perfect keyboards. The first ThinkPad weighed 6.5 pounds and cost $4,350, which is over $6,350 in today’s money.

While IBM was creating the ThinkPad, there was a little company in China called Legend that was manufacturing PCs of its own. According to the Lenovo company history, Legend began as a company creating Chinese character cards and launched its first PC in 1990. By 1998, Legend had sold over a million PCs. Legend would go on to become Lenovo.

When the twenty-first century started, IBM was in a bit of a financial malaise. To help boost the bottom line, IBM decided to outsource production of the NetVista line of desktop in 2002. It did so to a company called Sanmina-SCI under a three-year, $5-billion agreement. In 2003, IBM followed up by signing a deal to outsource production of its server line to the same company. As you can see in both articles, IBM said that they would not outsource production of the ThinkPad, but rather keep them in-house.

That didn’t last very long however. In 2004, IBM agreed to sell part of its laptop arm to Chinese manufacturer Hon Hai Precsion. Hon Hai was already the second-largest OEM of laptops in the world, manufacturing laptops to several companies including Lenovo.

Finally, in 2005, IBM had enough and decided to sell its entire PC line, including the ThinkPad, to Lenovo. Just this year, Lenovo bought Sanmina-SCI, completely solidifying its purchase of the former IBM PC line.

Along with the business, Lenovo purchased the right to use IBM’s name for five years after the deal. Lenovo jettisoned the IBM name as soon as it could and stuck with the Think brand as the flagship product. It continues to sell the ThinkPad, ThinkCentre, and now the ThinkServer.

See the difference

You can see the difference in production over time by checking the stickers on the back of the 1995 ThinkPad 701C, which we just did a Cracking Open Photo gallery, compared to a 2004 ThinkPad T42 used by TechRepublic Editor Bill Detwiler.

The 701C clearly shows that the unit is made in Mexico BY IBM:

Alternatively, the T42 is made in China FOR IBM:

The semantic difference shows over time how IBM was slowly moving away from production of its own machines.

The downward spiral of the ThinkPad

The original ThinkPads seemed to be very solid machines. I always loved the keyboard in particular and the speed of the machine. But even as early as 2006, I started to notice a problem when we first reviewed the Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet PC:

If there are any areas I could complain about there would be two: One
is around the vaunted ThinkPad keyboard and the other is around the
infamous TrackPoint. ThinkPad keyboards are still in a league by
themselves, but my poor Lenovo has a mushy spot around the arrow keys. Maybe it’s broken underneath, but it just doesn’t feel the same as the rest of the keys.

As for the TrackPoint, it seems to have fits whenever the hard drive is
running a lot. If you try to load several programs at the same time,
the TrackPoint jumps randomly and sometimes starts additional programs. I’ve seen on Usenet where this appears to be a common occurrence, but noone seems to have suggestion that works to fix it.

Subsequent ThinkPads I’ve seen don’t seem to have the same fit and finish on the case, and the keyboards don’t have the same feel. TechRepublic members in the past have had issues with Lenovo products as well, including shoddy service and support.

What do you think?

When people used to ask me what kind of a laptop to buy, I always used to recommend IBM ThinkPads hands down, if they could afford them. When I recently bought my own laptop, I went with an HP Pavillion. The ThinkPads just seem to have lost some luster to me.

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Has Lenovo ruined the ThinkPad? John Sheesley - TechRepublic ProTechrepublic Moderator | 09/18/08
No diff Gate keeper | 09/18/08
Beyond "Made In China" John Sheesley - TechRepublic ProTechrepublic Moderator | 09/18/08
my bad Gate keeper | 09/18/08
Lenovo Thinkpad heading the right direction wild_willy06@... | 09/19/08
T60 here also Neon Samurai | 09/19/08
The beginning of an interesting trend John Sheesley - TechRepublic ProTechrepublic Moderator | 09/19/08
The List of New Pro-Lenovo Members John Sheesley - TechRepublic ProTechrepublic Moderator | 09/19/08
Building the Perfect Laptop corboyusa@... | 09/19/08
Well I have to disagree with you here HAL 9000 | 09/19/08
Here's another John Sheesley - TechRepublic ProTechrepublic Moderator | 09/19/08
I love Thinkpad kirstensolset@... | 09/19/08
And Another John Sheesley - TechRepublic ProTechrepublic Moderator | 09/19/08
NO....It is same anand.subramanya@... | 09/19/08
Yet another John Sheesley - TechRepublic ProTechrepublic Moderator | 09/19/08
Can't Beat The ThinkPads tmmpolk@... | 09/19/08
A repairman's view John Sheesley - TechRepublic ProTechrepublic Moderator | 09/19/08
Myth ashishf@... | 09/19/08
Still another John Sheesley - TechRepublic ProTechrepublic Moderator | 09/19/08
The quality has slipped. SupahTech | 09/19/08
IBM's ThinkPads were made in Japan john.st.lawrence@... | 09/19/08
IBM's ThinkPads were made in Yamato, Greenock, Guad jthendry@... | 11/09/08
the quality has slipped indeed hy.per@... | 09/23/08
Never used the original flounder_pdx | 09/20/08
Do not agree leeza2005@... | 09/21/08
No snow_in_hand@... | 09/22/08
inconsistent quality, varies across range speculatrix | 09/22/08
BIG in Banglore... RipVan | 09/22/08
I've never seen anything like it John Sheesley - TechRepublic ProTechrepublic Moderator | 09/22/08
Proof of lack of understanding? flounder_pdx | 09/23/08
I expected John Sheesley - TechRepublic ProTechrepublic Moderator | 09/23/08
I like Thinkpad wupengb@... | 09/22/08
Somethings afoot and will make me run away. Ambercroft | 09/22/08
Most definitely stg886 | 12/19/08
it was only rebranding Neon Samurai | 12/19/08
You also should have a Cool Pad under every NB that you use HAL 9000 | 12/20/08
RE: Has Lenovo ruined the ThinkPad? davensjournal@... | 09/18/08
RE: Has Lenovo ruined the ThinkPad? vanithaskumar@... | 09/18/08
And it continues.... John Sheesley - TechRepublic ProTechrepublic Moderator | 09/19/08
pasidharth@gmail.com pasidharth@... | 09/19/08
Notice the trend? John Sheesley - TechRepublic ProTechrepublic Moderator | 09/19/08
RE: Has Lenovo ruined the ThinkPad? ashishf@... | 09/19/08
Still more John Sheesley - TechRepublic ProTechrepublic Moderator | 09/19/08
RE: Has Lenovo ruined the ThinkPad? drupad_reddy@... | 09/19/08
Ditto John Sheesley - TechRepublic ProTechrepublic Moderator | 09/19/08
RE: Has Lenovo ruined the ThinkPad? sachusethi@... | 09/19/08
Ad infinitum John Sheesley - TechRepublic ProTechrepublic Moderator | 09/19/08
Lenovo X60 performance jcurnutt@... | 09/22/08
Much Much Better!!! simha.c@... | 09/19/08
Ad nauseum John Sheesley - TechRepublic ProTechrepublic Moderator | 09/19/08
RE: Has Lenovo ruined the ThinkPad? kudileep2@... | 09/19/08
Have I made my point yet? John Sheesley - TechRepublic ProTechrepublic Moderator | 09/19/08
NO alenjoepulickal@... | 09/19/08
RE: Has Lenovo ruined the ThinkPad? wes@... | 09/19/08
Yet another new pro-Lenovo post John Sheesley - TechRepublic ProTechrepublic Moderator | 09/19/08
They're not listening to you yet, John lost in Texas | 09/19/08
Apparently not John Sheesley - TechRepublic ProTechrepublic Moderator | 09/19/08
Maybe so... rocky6oct@... | 09/20/08
RE : I have been an old ThinkPad user, and have used both the Old & the HAL 9000 | 09/21/08
Hear Hear Only if you ask nicely | 09/22/08
Thank You Hal John Sheesley - TechRepublic ProTechrepublic Moderator | 09/22/08
Wash, Rinse, Repeat John Sheesley - TechRepublic ProTechrepublic Moderator | 09/22/08
if you have been using them for many years it is clear. monsalbus | 09/19/08
Disccution rishiatwal | 07/16/09
RE: Has Lenovo ruined the ThinkPad? ssk04@... | 09/20/08
astroturfer! speculatrix | 09/22/08
A late comer to the party John Sheesley - TechRepublic ProTechrepublic Moderator | 09/22/08
RE: Has Lenovo ruined the ThinkPad? mhguan7910@... | 09/21/08
astroturfing speculatrix | 09/22/08
The Original Question WAS NOT about Performance HAL 9000 | 09/22/08
RE: Has Lenovo ruined the ThinkPad? franklin_guo@... | 09/21/08
RE: Has Lenovo ruined the ThinkPad? shenyan790314@... | 09/21/08
RE: Has Lenovo ruined the ThinkPad? paragjain_75@... | 09/21/08
astroturfer! speculatrix | 09/22/08
RE: Has Lenovo ruined the ThinkPad? yong.peng7@... | 09/22/08
RE: Has Lenovo ruined the ThinkPad? spreston@... | 09/22/08
Have fleet of laptops for 3 years don.gulledge@... | 09/22/08
RE: Has Lenovo ruined the ThinkPad? martili@... | 09/22/08
RE: Has Lenovo ruined the ThinkPad? techbuzzard | 09/22/08
A bit much John Sheesley - TechRepublic ProTechrepublic Moderator | 09/22/08
My experience... tkeller@... | 09/22/08
Wish I Would Have Purchased A Dell... mandms7 | 09/22/08
RE: Has Lenovo ruined the ThinkPad? enginhl@... | 09/23/08
RE: Has Lenovo ruined the ThinkPad? dhamilt01@... | 09/23/08
RE: Has Lenovo ruined the ThinkPad? jl03276@... | 09/23/08
RE: Has Lenovo ruined the ThinkPad? rgorman@... | 09/25/08
RE: Has Lenovo ruined the ThinkPad? rgorman@... | 09/25/08
Keep offering a Linux based OS option, pref multiple distros Neon Samurai | 09/26/08
someone needs to test the website Neon Samurai | 09/26/08
website does load under firefox Neon Samurai | 09/27/08
RE: Has Lenovo ruined the ThinkPad? smilesuquan@... | 10/08/08
Really??? HAL 9000 | 10/08/08
Yes, indeed... lopesdasilvaj@... | 01/29/09
Yep I do agree with you on this one HAL 9000 | 01/30/09

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